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From: "Peter C. Chapin" <pchapin@sover.net>
Subject: Re: "Must instantiate controlled types at library level." Why?
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 10:36:28 GMT
Date: 2004-05-13T10:36:28+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Xns94E8433AB7894pchapinsovernet@207.106.93.237> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 2780491.NPbR8AFya6@linux1.krischik.com

Martin Krischik <krischik@users.sourceforge.net> wrote in
news:2780491.NPbR8AFya6@linux1.krischik.com: 

> Well, here you have a good example of the difference of Ada and C++. Ada
> has a complete ban on the construct while C++ goes out and about to ban
> only the tricky part.

It's interesting to reflect on these different approaches. C++ can get 
away with imposing such restrictions on nested functions because nested 
functions are rarely used in C++. In Ada similar restrictions on nested 
procedures would be entirely unacceptable. Consequently Ada imposes 
restrictions in a different place in order to avoid the same fundamental 
problem.

> Just in case you did not know: 
> 
> P is tagged ....
> P_Class is access P;
> C is new P ....
> 
> A_C : C := ...
> A_P : P'Class := P'Class (A_C); 
> A_P_Ptr : P_CLass := new P'CLass'(A_C);
> 
> A_P and A_P_Ptr will contain a copy of C.

Interesting. I don't completely follow the code above because I haven't 
gotten to this material yet in my study. In the statement

A_P : P'Class := P'Class(A_C);

Is A_C "sliced" into a P (to use a bit of C++ terminology)? I'm not 
certain what declaring A_P as type P'Class is doing for me.

> PS: I hope you don't mind my other post to much. You do dig deeper and
> you do know the ISO standard so my rant about the average C++ programmer
> does not apply to you.

No offense taken. Certainly C++ is a rather twisted language, especially 
syntactically. I'm enjoying Ada because it seems much cleaner while still 
being very powerful and expressive.

Peter



  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-13 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-11 23:04 "Must instantiate controlled types at library level." Why? Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-12  1:03 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-05-12 10:47   ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-12 11:25     ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-12 14:41       ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-13  2:20       ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-12 11:55     ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-13  2:59       ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-13  7:10         ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-13 10:36           ` Peter C. Chapin [this message]
2004-05-13 11:18             ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-13 22:27               ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-13 22:54               ` Freejack
2004-05-14  7:13                 ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-14 13:50                   ` Xenos
2004-05-14 17:27                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-14 17:58                       ` Xenos
2004-05-14 18:49                     ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-14 19:40                       ` Xenos
2004-05-14 22:47                         ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-15  8:34                           ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-16  2:55                           ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-16 13:48                             ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-17  2:30                               ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-17  5:39                                 ` Martin Dowie
2004-05-17  7:48                                   ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-17 15:01                                     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-17 16:31                                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-17 17:40                                         ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-17 19:17                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-17  6:24                                 ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-17 19:48                                   ` James Kanze
2004-05-18  6:27                                     ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-17 12:33                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-17 13:46                                   ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-17 15:03                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-17 16:02                                   ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-05-18  7:48                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-19  1:20                                       ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-05-19  9:59                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-19 12:38                                           ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-19 13:28                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-19 13:09                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-19 13:44                                             ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-19 14:17                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-19 14:15                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-21 11:39                                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-21 20:33                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
     [not found]                                                   ` <c8mkor$rlq$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>
2004-05-23  1:28                                                     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-23  8:55                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-24 11:38                                                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-24 13:57                                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-24 14:40                                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-25  8:32                                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-25 15:47                                                               ` Georg Bauhaus
     [not found]                                   ` <URJ8Eg0vzF@VB1162.spb.edu>
2004-05-17 16:50                                     ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-05-18  8:27                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-15 17:20                     ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-13 19:33             ` Randy Brukardt
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