From: Wes Groleau <wesgroleau@despammed.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Acquires Rational Ada
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:46:14 -0500
Date: 2002-12-11T09:46:14-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <WcIJ9.2225$c6.2445@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: at7fi7$7fc$1@slb0.atl.mindspring.net
> what the ultimate customer wants and needs. We keep thinking "Take your time
> and get it right. It'll pay in the long run". This may be true and the
> customer will be glad he's got that one day, but what would be far more
> compelling in making the sale is "This will get you to market faster!" If
> the Ada community started focusing in on developmental leverage that got
> someone to market quicker, that would be a quality they wouldn't (and
> couldn't!) ignore.
If you could _convince_ them it would get them to market faster.
My point was that they first find out that it doesn't get
something COMPILED faster, so they drop it and never find out
how long it takes to get to market.
And in the "hacker" world (in the good sense of the term),
getting something compiled is for some a good goal in itself,
because that way you get it out there faster for other people
to debug.
Hmmm. Come to think of it, getting it out there for
the customer to debug seems to be the paradigm in
some commercial domains as well!
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2002-12-07 2:47 IBM Acquires Rational Ada Richard Riehle
2002-12-07 8:24 ` achrist
2002-12-08 1:46 ` Richard Riehle
2002-12-08 14:45 ` Steven Deller
2002-12-08 20:20 ` Richard Riehle
2002-12-09 14:26 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-11 18:25 ` achrist
2002-12-11 19:29 ` Martin Dowie
2002-12-22 2:07 ` faust
2002-12-21 18:08 ` faust
2002-12-08 17:18 ` steve_H
2002-12-08 20:11 ` Steven Deller
2002-12-09 14:24 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-09 15:23 ` John McCabe
2002-12-09 16:55 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-08 23:31 ` Christopher Browne
2002-12-09 10:30 ` John McCabe
2002-12-09 14:11 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-12-09 14:32 ` Pat Rogers
2002-12-09 15:42 ` Simon Wright
2002-12-12 14:41 ` Alvery Grazebrook
2002-12-12 21:13 ` Martin Dowie
2002-12-16 13:24 ` UML to Ada Mapping Alvery Grazebrook
2002-12-17 8:27 ` IBM Acquires Rational Ada Simon Wright
2002-12-10 22:43 ` Andreas Almroth
2002-12-09 13:09 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-09 22:45 ` steve_H
2002-12-10 13:50 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-10 17:47 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-10 20:21 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-10 22:05 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-11 2:50 ` steve_H
2002-12-11 8:51 ` OT: Word processing (was: Re: IBM Acquires Rational Ada) Anders Wirzenius
2002-12-11 13:45 ` IBM Acquires Rational Ada Marin David Condic
2002-12-11 14:46 ` Wes Groleau [this message]
2002-12-12 13:07 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-12 18:19 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-12 19:12 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-13 12:25 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-13 17:41 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-13 18:20 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-13 21:49 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
[not found] ` <KIkL9.2260$c6.2599@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com>
2002-12-16 18:12 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-17 21:25 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-16 18:54 ` John R. Strohm
2002-12-16 22:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-17 14:47 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-17 20:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-16 10:11 ` calenday (was " Peter Hermann
2002-12-16 18:38 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-16 19:04 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-16 20:25 ` David C. Hoos
2002-12-16 20:37 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-16 21:41 ` David C. Hoos
2002-12-16 22:11 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-17 15:47 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-17 16:26 ` Peter Hermann
2002-12-17 16:37 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-16 22:32 ` tmoran
2002-12-16 22:21 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-17 8:07 ` Simon Wright
2002-12-19 12:23 ` Frank Piron
2002-12-19 12:33 ` Karel Miklav
2002-12-19 13:24 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-17 14:46 ` Robert A Duff
2002-12-17 19:08 ` tmoran
2002-12-17 19:15 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-17 20:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-17 19:48 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-17 20:08 ` David C. Hoos
2002-12-17 20:52 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2002-12-17 21:43 ` Steven Murdoch
2002-12-17 16:39 ` Robert A Duff
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2002-12-18 13:20 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-18 15:17 ` Robert A Duff
2002-12-18 17:58 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-19 8:48 ` tmoran
2002-12-19 13:18 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-19 20:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-20 12:23 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-20 21:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-20 13:15 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-20 12:19 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-21 15:48 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-21 14:54 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-20 18:49 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-20 19:48 ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-12-20 21:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-23 2:05 ` AG
2002-12-27 20:43 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-21 15:59 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-20 21:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-18 18:57 ` Robert A Duff
[not found] ` <atk8s0$7dm$1@news.uni <wcc4r9b40ka.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com>
2002-12-18 19:16 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-18 22:03 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-18 22:00 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-18 22:39 ` Robert A Duff
2002-12-19 2:41 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-19 11:47 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-13 14:18 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-13 17:07 ` Larry Kilgallen
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2002-12-13 21:52 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-14 14:01 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-14 20:01 ` tmoran
2002-12-16 18:48 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-16 23:01 ` Ed Cogburn
2002-12-11 14:59 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-11 18:33 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-11 20:51 ` steve_H
2002-12-11 21:40 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-12 18:24 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-24 4:16 ` David Thompson
2002-12-11 21:54 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-11 23:22 ` Robert A Duff
2002-12-12 16:44 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-12 17:14 ` Fraser Wilson
2002-12-12 18:33 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-12 19:16 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-13 21:26 ` Programmer Dude
2002-12-16 19:27 ` John R. Strohm
2002-12-16 20:08 ` Hyman Rosen
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2002-12-12 10:07 ` John English
2002-12-13 0:53 ` Zaphod
2002-12-12 13:20 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-11 19:04 ` tmoran
2002-12-11 19:20 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-12-12 13:34 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-12 17:04 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-12 18:17 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-13 9:17 ` Peter Amey
2002-12-13 12:43 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-13 15:46 ` Robert Spooner
2002-12-14 14:15 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-15 10:30 ` Ingo Marks
2002-12-15 13:54 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-15 19:20 ` tmoran
2002-12-16 13:20 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-17 15:41 ` steve_H
2002-12-18 13:11 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-16 13:43 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-11 13:33 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-12 18:43 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-12 19:53 ` tmoran
2002-12-13 6:06 ` Richard Riehle
2002-12-13 10:22 ` Ed Cogburn
2002-12-13 13:07 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-13 14:16 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-13 21:27 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-12-13 21:27 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-12-14 14:25 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-16 13:56 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-17 15:04 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-17 21:29 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-18 13:31 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-22 2:41 ` faust
2002-12-13 14:13 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-22 2:47 ` faust
2002-12-13 17:55 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-13 21:55 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2002-12-16 13:58 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-14 0:14 ` steve_H
2002-12-16 19:00 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-14 12:58 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2002-12-19 9:53 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-12-19 16:17 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2002-12-19 17:27 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-19 22:51 ` Michael Bode
2002-12-13 12:51 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-14 19:51 ` GianLuigi Piacentini
2002-12-14 20:35 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2002-12-21 17:41 ` faust
2002-12-21 17:40 ` IBM , the kiss of death ( Re: IBM Acquires Rational Ada) faust
2003-01-06 22:24 ` IBM Acquires Rational Ada Don Westermeyer
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2002-12-16 7:19 ` Richard Riehle
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2002-12-18 18:28 ` Wes Groleau
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