From: Jeffrey Carter <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.acm.not.org>
Subject: Re: Translating an embedded C algorithm
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:20:22 GMT
Date: 2007-01-17T19:20:22+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <WFurh.1146018$084.907277@attbi_s22> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1169040688.133180.20300@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Talulah wrote:
>
> Secondly, the
> product that this code came from is a domestic electricity meter for
> India, a market of 18 million devices per year. This is not a
> safety-critical product at all, but one which in those volumes must be
> designed for the lowest cost possible. Hence the use of 4 diodes as a
> temperature sensor, and hence (this may get more argument) the use of C
> rather than Ada.
Where the example came from should be irrelevant for a small example in
a text. Apparently you have a monopoly, since your share of the market
in your calculations is the total market.
Where we have hard data, they show that Ada reduces development costs by
1/2 over C, reduces post-deployment errors by 1/4, and reduces the cost
to fix an error by 1/10.
There is a least one documented case of Ada producing smaller code than
hand-optimized assembler. Dewar has a number of examples of equivalent
Ada and C code that produce identical object code.
Thus, the assumption that C is necessary to keep costs down is
unsupported, a fact that anyone qualified to choose the language for
such SW should know.
Finally, I did not assert that you are unqualified to write such a book.
I said, "I have to wonder about the qualifications of someone who only
knows C." I am perfectly willing to have it demonstrated that you are
qualified.
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Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-15 14:36 Translating an embedded C algorithm Talulah
2007-01-16 0:06 ` Jeffrey Carter
2007-01-16 1:10 ` Marc A. Criley
2007-01-16 2:21 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-16 10:40 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-01-16 14:48 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-01-16 17:32 ` Jeffrey Carter
2007-01-16 18:04 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-17 0:09 ` Jeffrey Carter
2007-01-17 1:07 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-16 4:37 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2007-01-16 13:37 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-16 23:47 ` Simon Wright
2007-01-17 1:02 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-16 3:50 ` Vo, Anh (US SSA)
2007-01-16 12:15 ` Niklas Holsti
2007-01-16 23:50 ` Simon Wright
2007-01-18 16:17 ` Niklas Holsti
2007-01-18 16:41 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-01-18 20:02 ` Niklas Holsti
2007-01-18 22:25 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-19 8:32 ` Niklas Holsti
2007-01-19 19:15 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-19 20:49 ` Simon Wright
2007-01-18 16:55 ` Robert A Duff
2007-01-18 18:54 ` Jeffrey Carter
2007-01-19 0:45 ` Robert A Duff
2007-01-18 21:25 ` Niklas Holsti
2007-01-19 0:50 ` Robert A Duff
2007-01-19 4:43 ` Jeffrey Carter
2007-01-18 18:43 ` Jeffrey Carter
2007-01-18 20:19 ` Niklas Holsti
2007-01-18 20:30 ` Niklas Holsti
2007-01-18 23:34 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-19 8:57 ` Niklas Holsti
2007-01-19 2:11 ` Steve Whalen
2007-01-19 10:27 ` Niklas Holsti
2007-01-16 13:32 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-16 14:47 ` Gautier
2007-01-16 15:15 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-16 15:16 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-01-16 16:12 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-01-16 17:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-01-16 22:32 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-01-17 20:22 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-01-18 9:23 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-01-16 17:12 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-16 17:20 ` Frank J. Lhota
2007-01-16 18:09 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-16 17:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-01-16 18:08 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-16 18:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-01-16 20:03 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-18 19:33 ` Björn Persson
2007-01-18 22:32 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-19 20:26 ` Björn Persson
2007-01-19 23:25 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-19 7:15 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-01-19 20:27 ` Björn Persson
2007-01-19 20:34 ` Robert A Duff
2007-01-17 13:48 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-01-17 23:32 ` Translating an embedded C algorithm -- OT Cesar Rabak
2007-01-18 8:56 ` Talulah
2007-01-18 22:05 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-18 9:03 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-01-18 10:22 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2007-01-18 18:34 ` Jeffrey Carter
2007-01-18 22:26 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-19 4:45 ` Jeffrey Carter
2007-01-18 22:18 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-19 20:53 ` Simon Wright
2007-01-16 15:55 ` Translating an embedded C algorithm Cesar Rabak
2007-01-17 3:00 ` Vo, Anh (US SSA)
2007-01-17 10:48 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-17 11:44 ` Niklas Holsti
2007-01-17 13:31 ` Talulah
2007-01-17 19:20 ` Jeffrey Carter [this message]
2007-01-18 14:19 ` Talulah
2007-01-18 15:28 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-01-18 23:27 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-18 18:51 ` Jeffrey Carter
2007-01-18 22:30 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-19 4:48 ` Jeffrey Carter
2007-01-19 19:13 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-20 20:56 ` Jeffrey Carter
2007-01-19 2:21 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2007-01-19 3:25 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-01-20 0:46 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2007-01-20 13:03 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-01-20 16:54 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2007-01-20 23:53 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-01-20 21:02 ` Jeffrey Carter
2007-01-25 21:59 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-01-26 4:06 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-01-26 11:26 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-01-26 12:25 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-19 4:52 ` Jeffrey Carter
2007-01-19 10:13 ` Warner BRUNS
2007-01-19 14:54 ` Robert A Duff
2007-01-19 4:08 ` Steve
2007-01-19 20:41 ` Simon Wright
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2007-01-17 7:07 AW: " Grein, Christoph (Fa. ESG)
2007-01-17 10:26 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-01-17 16:44 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-01-18 8:49 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-01-19 9:33 ` Stephen Leake
2007-01-19 19:23 ` Cesar Rabak
2007-01-19 20:27 ` Robert A Duff
2007-01-20 9:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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