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From: srctran@world.std.com (Gregory Aharonian)
Subject: Re: Ichibah flames, and flames out over, Ada 9X
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1993 22:15:48 GMT
Date: 1993-03-08T22:15:48+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SRCTRAN.93Mar8171548@world.std.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu's message of Mon, 8 Mar 1993 16:28:31 GMT

   With regards to the comments by Tucker and Mike, I think the original
emphasis of the posting is being overlooked.  Like it or not, Ada right now
is in a vicious competition with C++ and Smalltalk, and not doing very well.
Thus it seems to me that some purity will have to be sacrificed with
regards to Ada9X to achieve that level of commercial success necessary for
the DoD to achieve its original goals from Ada83 days.
   Looking at the people involved with Ada9X, there are very few people with
a business stake in the language (DoD types), or a great track record in
promoting Ada in the non-Mandated world (vendor types).  From the outside,
one could make the case that the Ada9X effort is doing its best to improve
the language while maintaining the status quo with regards to a language
that too many in the non-Mandated world can ignorantly, but easily, dismiss.

   I highly doubt that many on the Ada9X effort ever though the following
thought in any of their deliberations:  "If I was spending my own money on
this, what would I want".  From this point of view, the original posting's
call for more features in Ada9X that allows better competition with C++
(and Smalltalk) should be heeded.

Greg Aharonian
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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1993-03-07 19:15 Ichibah flames, and flames out over, Ada 9X John Goodsen
1993-03-08  0:45 ` David Emery
1993-03-08 15:36 ` Tucker Taft
1993-03-08 16:28   ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-08 22:15     ` Gregory Aharonian [this message]
1993-03-09 14:20       ` Tucker Taft
1993-03-09 14:55         ` C. Michael Holloway
1993-03-10 14:51         ` Gregory Aharonian
1993-03-09 17:12       ` Harry Koehnemann
1993-03-09 20:54         ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-09 20:14       ` Larry M. Jordan
1993-03-09 17:49     ` Harry Koehnemann
1993-03-09 21:01       ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-09 18:12   ` Tom Wicklund
1993-03-11  8:04     ` Encapsulation in Ada vs. C++ (Was Re: Ichibah [sic] ...) Magnus Kempe
1993-03-16  6:34       ` Dag Bruck
1993-03-16  7:51         ` Magnus Kempe
1993-03-16  9:51           ` Dag Bruck
1993-03-09 18:53   ` Ichibah flames, and flames out over, Ada 9X Larry M. Jordan
1993-03-09 20:24     ` David Weller
1993-03-09 21:03       ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-12 14:49         ` Tucker Taft
1993-03-12 23:54           ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-16 17:34   ` Robert Firth
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1993-03-11 15:13 Tucker Taft
1993-03-10 20:39 John Goodsen
1993-03-10 20:15 John Goodsen
1993-03-10 22:41 ` David Emery
1993-03-12 16:01   ` Tom Pole
1993-03-12 22:59     ` Charles H. Sampson
1993-03-13  3:11     ` Keith Thompson @pulsar
1993-03-14 15:03       ` Fergus James HENDERSON
1993-03-15 23:19       ` Harry Koehnemann
1993-03-16  2:50         ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-17 18:18         ` Robert Firth
1993-03-12 22:02   ` Anthony Howell
1993-02-26 22:58 Bob Munck
1993-02-28 18:42 ` Don Tyzuk
1993-03-04 22:44   ` news
1993-03-05  2:39     ` Richard Pattis
1993-03-05 11:36     ` David Weller
1993-03-05 12:06     ` Don Tyzuk
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1993-02-26 14:35 David Emery
1993-02-25 23:51 Mark A Biggar
1993-02-24 21:10 John Goodsen
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1993-02-25 17:08   ` Harry Koehnemann
1993-03-01 15:59     ` Tucker Taft
1993-03-02  7:43       ` Dag Bruck
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