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From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!nic.umass.edu!ymir.cs.umass.edu !rcfnews!sandy@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Sandy Wise)
Subject: Re: Data shows Top 50 Software Vendors not using Ada
Date: 4 Jun 93 17:10:33 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SANDY.93Jun4101033@beeker.cs.umass.edu> (raw)

In article <SRCTRAN.93Jun3232913@world.std.com> srctran@world.std.com (Gregory 
Aharonian) writes:
 > You know, one of the most obnoxious conceits of the Defense
 > world is that it has the worst real time, fault tolerant, large
 > scale computing problems.  There are plenty of industries using the
 > tools and products of the 50 companies I listed whose problems are
 > just as bad as the DoD's.

There are organizations outside the Pentagon with mission-critical
software systems out there, but the Pentagon's systems are
life-critical.  Failing to make a trade or double-booking a seat on an
airplane just isn't in the same class... To compare apples to apples
you need to talk about patient monitoring, railroad signalling, or
something...

 >     Consider Wall Street. Their systems can't break down during the
 > trading day, their algorithms have to handle all market exceptions,
 > etc.

Which of course explains why the SEC shuts down programmed trading
whenever the market acts up.  And of course there was a recent
incedent where the market management software failed and trading had
to be done with paper records.  Might not have happened if...

 > How about airlines.  A few months ago, Business Week had a glowing
 > article about Smalltalk,in which a large Smalltalk system developed
 > by American Airlines handles their daily scheduling activities.
 > Screw up one connection,

How about airlines.  The new ATC system is being written in...
Boeing is writing the flight software for its new passenger aircraft
in...

      The phone systems - real time, high throughput, even help fight a few
   wars with the DoD - all done in C.  Remember the invasion of Grenada?

Remember the Northeast long-distance blackout? It was directly
attributed to the semantics of 'break'.
        /s
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1993-06-04 17:10 agate!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!nic.umass.edu!ymir.cs.umass.edu [this message]
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1993-06-18 13:14 Data shows Top 50 Software Vendors not using Ada Phil Thornley , BAe
1993-06-17 19:06 Jo Uhde, aka DrJo
1993-06-16 13:33 cis.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!caen!uvaarpa!murdoch!holme
1993-06-16  9:59 Ian Wild
1993-06-15 22:22 James Crigler
1993-06-15 15:48 agate!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!uvaarpa!murdoch!holmes.acc.V
1993-06-12 15:14 Gregory Aharonian
1993-06-11  4:03 David Emery
1993-06-10  1:40 news
1993-06-09 22:15 cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.
1993-06-07 23:05 Robert I. Eachus
1993-06-07  2:31 Gregory Aharonian
1993-06-06  3:16 Michael Feldman
1993-06-05 21:40 Gregory Aharonian
1993-06-05 20:56 John Bollenbacher
1993-06-05 15:14 cis.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!linus
1993-06-04 21:18 deccrl!news.crl.dec.com!dbased.nuo.dec.com!digits.enet.dec.com!brett
1993-06-04 14:42 David Tannen x8273
1993-06-04 13:02 howland.reston.ans.net!agate!linus!linus.mitre.org!mwunix.mitre.org!m2358
1993-06-04  4:29 Gregory Aharonian
1993-06-04  0:45 Rod Cheshire
1993-06-03 19:15 dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.g
1993-06-03 18:23 David Tannen x8273
1993-06-03 15:48 Gregory Aharonian
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