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From: Marin David Condic <nobody@noplace.com>
Subject: Re: NOACE- End of the road for Ada?
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:34:57 GMT
Date: 2005-03-18T12:34:57+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <RVz_d.13784$qf2.7480@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1wuefxdhphvq5.1te56e3jttqln.dlg@40tude.net>

Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> 
> However, there is a problem of acceptance. People want C. Even more they
> want C#. Lots of projects are doomed to fail before they change their
> minds...
> 
Yeah, but...

The biggest reason that the Simulink modeling crowd wants C is because 
Simulink generates C. The modelers themselves don't really care so long 
as the model executes. But once you've got the C code, the incentive to 
use ANYTHING ELSE for the production control starts asymptotically 
approaching zero.

Matlab/Simulink are the 800 pound gorilla in this market. They tend to 
define what happens even with their competitors. People want to be 
compatible with Simulink so guess what THEY all generate? That's right. 
C code.

If there was an Ada-ish Simulink-like modeling tool that incorporated at 
the design level a number of Ada-isms that helped support the modeling 
effort, it would be far more natural to generate Ada code to run the 
model and then guess what? The incentive to use the Ada code for the 
embedded control target starts becoming unbeatable. But you MUST have a 
BETTER modeling tool - it can't just be a Simulink clone or nobody will 
want to abandon the market leader for your product.

MDC


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  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-18 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-10  2:33 NOACE- End of the road for Ada? Michael Card
2005-03-10  4:33 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-10 13:42   ` Michael Card
2005-03-10 21:57     ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-03-11  4:53     ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-10 21:39   ` Frank J. Lhota
2005-03-12 19:08 ` svaa
2005-03-13  1:59   ` Stephen Leake
2005-03-13 12:44     ` svaa
2005-03-13 14:22       ` Stephen Leake
2005-03-13 14:56         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-13 21:50         ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-13 23:39           ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-03-13 23:20         ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-14  0:25           ` Michael Card
2005-03-14  2:11             ` Ed Falis
2005-03-14  2:29               ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-16  4:49             ` Wes Groleau
2005-03-14  2:22           ` Jeff C
2005-03-13 17:23       ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-13 18:42 ` adaworks
2005-03-13 19:58   ` Peter C. Chapin
2005-03-13 20:14     ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-14  5:13   ` Jared
2005-03-14 13:42     ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-15  0:34       ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-15 10:52         ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-16  5:15           ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-16 17:42             ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-17  2:34               ` adaworks
2005-03-17 13:25                 ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-17 15:35                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-18 12:34                     ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2005-03-17  4:56               ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-17 13:56                 ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-18 22:22                   ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-19 13:43                     ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-17 14:54                 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-18  1:26                   ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-30  8:46                 ` jtg
2005-03-15  4:00     ` adaworks
2005-03-16 20:18       ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-17  2:48         ` adaworks
2005-03-17  3:54         ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-18  2:45           ` adaworks
2005-03-18  3:45             ` Wes Groleau
2005-03-18  8:43               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-18 13:04               ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-18 14:03                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-03-20 13:47       ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-20 17:29         ` adaworks
2005-03-21 13:07           ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-21 13:59             ` Peter Hermann
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