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From: Glenn Williamson <gdwillia@socs.uts.EDU.AU>
To: Brian Kimball <brian_kimball@spam.sucks.hmc.edu>
Subject: Re: Why I didn't like Eiffel
Date: 1997/07/31
Date: 1997-07-31T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970731101946.11527A-100000@charlie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5rnioj$pgq@camel3.mindspring.com




On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Brian Kimball wrote:

> What IDE or compiler did you use?  When?

I used two different packages. The first was Unix based, I think it was 
called ISE Eiffel, v3.x.x. The main gripes with this package were :

	1) It took nearly 30 minutes to compile a simple 'Hello World'!!!
	   This was at a 'GooD TimE' too .... If the Uni computers were
	   congested at any time, say, close to an assignment being due,
	   then it may take twice as long. 
	
	2) The size of the executable on this particular system was
	   enormous. 'Hello World' came in at over 3Mb!!! Thankfully, this
	   problem was solved by SysProgs at the Uni midway thru semester.

The second package I used was Windows Based. It was the commercial version
of ISE Eiffel, which I ran on my PC at home, was far better. MY gripe with
this package, was that it didnt leave me an executable, and it didnt come
with any graphic libraries .... ( and I couldnt have been bothered going 
out looking for any! )

Don't get me wrong, I dont hate Eiffel with a vengeance, I just found that
the particular system I used didnt suit me at all ... I prefer getting
down amongst it all in C or C++, rather than being constrained by Eiffel .

	M00z,
		Glenn

P.S. I used it in the first semester of this year ....





  reply	other threads:[~1997-07-31  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-07-11  0:00 Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? ivory
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Tom M. Chen
1997-07-11  0:00   ` robinsaj
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Richie Bielak
1997-07-14  0:00   ` Don Harrison
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Michael Schuerig
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Mike Stark
1997-07-12  0:00 ` Ian Nelson
     [not found] ` <33CA5E3D.475B@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-14  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]     ` <33CB8E75.7CB1@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-16  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-16  0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-07-18  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-25  0:00     ` Jan Bielawski
1997-07-17  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-07-17  0:00   ` Walt Howard
1997-07-18  0:00     ` Technical Professionals and the humnaities ( Was: Re: Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it?) Chris Kuan
1997-07-18  0:00       ` Paul Johnson
1997-07-20  0:00         ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1997-07-22  0:00           ` Joseph M. Saur
     [not found]     ` <33CF6C0E.4983@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-18  0:00       ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Walt Howard
1997-07-18  0:00     ` Henrik Wist
     [not found]   ` <01bc94e6$9ced0820$287b7b7a@tlo2>
1997-07-19  0:00     ` Frieder Monninger
1997-07-22  0:00     ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-07-30  0:00     ` Glenn Williamson
1997-07-30  0:00       ` Brian Kimball
1997-07-31  0:00         ` Glenn Williamson [this message]
1997-08-02  0:00           ` Why I didn't like Eiffel Ian Nelson
1997-07-30  0:00       ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Brian Rogoff
1997-07-30  0:00         ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-01  0:00           ` I use Eiffel! and other "strange tongues"! Jakob Engblom
1997-08-02  0:00             ` Walt Howard
1997-08-02  0:00               ` Ian Nelson
1997-08-02  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-03  0:00                 ` Matt Kennel (Remove 'NOSPAM' to reply)
1997-08-03  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-07  0:00                 ` Andrew Semprebon
1997-08-08  0:00                   ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-08  0:00                     ` Walt Howard
1997-08-11  0:00                       ` Jeff Brown
1997-08-13  0:00                       ` quadrafeline
1997-08-09  0:00                 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-08-04  0:00               ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
     [not found]                 ` <dewar.870872376@merv>
1997-08-09  0:00                   ` Heribert Slama
     [not found]               ` <5s8bsh$mo0@alumni.rpi.edu>
1997-08-06  0:00                 ` C/C++ is the best teaching language??!? HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-08-08  0:00                 ` Tom Valesky
1997-08-02  0:00           ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Sean Case
1997-08-02  0:00           ` Nick Payne
1997-08-02  0:00             ` Walt Howard
1997-07-31  0:00       ` Don Harrison
1997-07-21  0:00   ` Don Harrison
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