From: Dieter Britz <db@kemi.aau.dk>
Subject: Re: Matrix Multiplication
Date: 1999/12/16
Date: 1999-12-16T08:11:04+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.21.9912160905270.15889-100000@kemi.aau.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wcchfhkxjeg.fsf@world.std.com
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Robert A Duff wrote:
> "Pascal Obry" <pascal_obry@csi.com> writes:
>
> > Well I don't know what is a fast or slow language !!
>
> I do. A fast language is one for which it is feasible to build
> compilers that generate fast code. A slow language is one for which
> that is not feasible.
>
> Also I prefer to put the burden of proof on the language advocates --
> that is, a language should be considered "slow" until proven "fast" by
> the existence of at least one good production-quality compiler.
>
> By this definition, Smalltalk, for example, is slow -- I've never seen a
> Smalltalk compiler that can generate fast code. Furthermore, it seems
> impossible, without doing all code generation at link time, which I
> claim is not feasible in many cases.
>
> I don't know whether Fortran is faster than Ada at matrix multiplies,
> but it does seem like a meaningful question to ask. If you measured
> lots of compilers, you could learn something useful.
This must depend on the specific compiler. These have become better at
optimising code the last couple of decades. Years ago, I often needed
to shift large array sections, and (on a PDP11, under RT11) wrote
myself an assembler-code subroutine to do the shift; that turned out
to run about 100 times as fast as the equivalent Fortran code. I feel
sure that now, there would not be so much difference, if any (but I
don't have an assembler anymore). Later, I compared Pascal and Fortran 77
on a VAX machine, and Fortran was, on average, about twice as fast. It
might depend on what sort of operations you normally program.
-- Dieter Britz alias db@kemi.aau.dk; http://www.kemi.aau.dk/~db
*** Echelon, bomb, sneakers, GRU: swamp the snoops with trivia! ***
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1999-12-14 0:00 Matrix Multiplication William Dale
1999-12-14 0:00 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Gautier
[not found] ` <5l1f5s4kck891a2s6o8bhvkirm4q79hm6c@4ax.com>
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
1999-12-27 0:00 ` Jeffrey L Straszheim
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-12-15 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
[not found] ` <3856FD3F.8291A71C@ucar.edu>
1999-12-15 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
1999-12-14 0:00 ` Richard Maine
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-15 0:00 ` William B. Clodius
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-15 0:00 ` William B. Clodius
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-12-16 0:00 ` William B. Clodius
[not found] ` <01bf4708$99ef98f0$022a6282@dieppe>
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Greg Martin
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Dieter Britz [this message]
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Greg Lindahl
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
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1999-12-15 0:00 Carlisle, Martin
1999-12-15 0:00 ` Mario Klebsch
1999-12-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-16 0:00 Carlisle, Martin
1999-12-16 0:00 ` Howard W. LUDWIG
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2012-07-10 8:39 ` Does Ada need elemental functions to make it suitable for scientific work? Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-07-10 9:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-12 0:31 ` robin.vowels
2012-07-12 7:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-29 13:39 ` Robin Vowels
2012-07-29 14:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-29 20:54 ` glen herrmannsfeldt
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2012-07-30 4:15 ` glen herrmannsfeldt
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2012-07-31 8:53 ` MATRIX MULTIPLICATION Robin Vowels
2012-07-31 9:05 ` Robin Vowels
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