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From: Mario Amado Alves <maa@di.fct.unl.pt>
To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org
Subject: Re: Ada and Database
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:14:42 +0000 (WET)
Date: 2001-01-08T13:14:42+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101081246290.27577-100000@lexis.di.fct.unl.pt> (raw)
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Robert Dewar wrote:

> In article
> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101051416490.27577-100000@lexis.di.fct.unl.pt>
> 
> > Some of us can only understand _short_ legal texts,
> > because we become very sleepy after the first ten lines ;-)
> 
> I cannot tell you how many court cases wallow in chaos caused
> by non-lawyers thinking things like this, and writing down
> what they think are simple straight-forward agreements that
> turn out to be anything but.

They should be straight-forward, in fact like the hundreds of contracts you
do each day in plain natural language (not legalese), without any problem
of interpretation. Court law should proceed this way: first decided what
was rigth; then he would lookup for the laws to backup his decision.

> > I keep looking for an understandable ten-line digest of GPL
> > and "open source".
> 
> You will not find one, any ten line digest of a license
> agreement is going to be full of confusion, misleading
> implications, and errors.

Actually such digests exist, usually in licences as a note after the
reference to the GPL, saying "essentially what this means is ... [10 line
digest here]".

> I am sure there are people who would like to find a 4 page
> booklet clearly describing all of Ada.

4-page is perhaps too little, but it is a fact that nice Ada programs are
written without their author having gone through the whole ARM.

> If you don't clearly understand the GPL, how can you possibly
> make the judgment that your license (which I have not read)
> is compatible with the GPL?

I understand it roughly, from the digests. Perhaps sometime I will be able
to study it fully. It is simply a matter of personal priorities, really: I
still have the ARM to go through ;-) Fortunately I am a non-lawer.

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Also, the problems you mention sound characteristic of USA law. There is a
world outside USA, you know, with a lot of different law systems. The
Internet and open source must of course consider this.

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Thanks. I am learning a lot from this rare thread on Adªlib.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-08 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-02 17:14 Ada and Database OPERA
2001-01-02 18:26 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-02 18:36 ` Juergen Pfeifer
2001-01-03 15:19 ` Mario Amado Alves
2001-01-04 11:15   ` Preben Randhol
2001-01-04 14:43     ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-04 18:39       ` Preben Randhol
2001-01-04 15:43     ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-05 14:58       ` Mario Amado Alves
2001-01-05 17:22         ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-08 12:40           ` Mario Amado Alves
2001-01-05 14:32     ` Mario Amado Alves
2001-01-06 17:34       ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-06 20:30         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-06 22:37           ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-08 14:55             ` Mario Amado Alves
2001-01-09  4:23               ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 10:47                 ` Mario Amado Alves
2001-01-09 11:25                   ` Preben Randhol
2001-01-09 20:15                   ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-10 22:03                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-11 10:26                     ` Mario Amado Alves
2001-01-10 22:03                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-16 20:35                     ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-08 13:14         ` Mario Amado Alves [this message]
2001-01-09  4:25           ` Robert Dewar
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2004-11-28 13:28 ada and database matias
2004-11-28 14:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-11-28 23:04 ` David Botton
2004-11-29  5:55 ` bubble
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