From: Brian Rogoff <bpr@shell5.ba.best.com>
Subject: Re: conditional compilation
Date: 2000/08/02
Date: 2000-08-02T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0008021448510.22894-100000@shell5.ba.best.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wccwvhzbnwc.fsf@world.std.com
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Robert A Duff wrote:
> In any case, from a language design point of view, if you think the
> compiler should see things in a different order or different
> organization than human beings, then clearly the programming language is
> poorly designed.
That isn't so clear to me. I don't think Common Lisp, Scheme and Dylan are
poorly designed because they include powerful macro systems. I believe
their designers feel that syntactic abstraction is important enough to
include facilities in the language for extensible syntax. That may
conflict with some of the design goals of Ada, but I don't thnk it
clearly indicates poor design.
> Macros can be used to get around poor language
> designs.
They can also be used to change the syntax of the language so that it is
more suitable for a particular problem. There are lots of things I don't
like about Lisp, but the inclusion of a powerful macro system is not among
them.
-- Brian
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-07-31 0:00 conditional compilation Matthew Woodcraft
2000-07-31 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-07-31 0:00 ` Ira D. Baxter
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-07-31 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-08-02 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-08-02 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-08-02 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff [this message]
2000-08-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-08-02 0:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
2000-08-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-08-03 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-08-02 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-08-01 0:00 ` William J. Thomas
2000-08-02 0:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-09-19 0:00 Conditional Compilation Kenneth Kueny
2000-09-19 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-09-19 0:00 ` Jeffrey Carter
2000-09-19 0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-09-20 0:44 ` Robert Dewar
2000-09-19 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-09-19 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-09-19 0:00 ` Jeff Allen
2000-09-20 0:49 ` Robert Dewar
2000-09-19 0:00 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2000-09-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-09-19 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-09-20 0:52 ` Robert Dewar
2000-09-20 0:47 ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-09 0:00 ` John McCabe
2000-09-19 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-09-19 0:00 ` Richard Riehle
2000-09-20 1:33 ` tmoran
[not found] ` <8qauu3$7ei$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
2000-09-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-09-25 2:45 ` Ted Dennison
2000-09-25 0:00 ` peter
[not found] ` <39CA31F2.E160F0D8@res.raytheon.com>
2000-09-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 13:27 ` Andrew Hately
2001-01-02 16:46 ` Robert Dewar
1989-12-12 0:08 conditional compilation Emery
1988-06-13 0:24 Conditional compilation Steinar Haug
1988-06-17 13:53 ` rds
1988-06-22 0:44 ` Jeff Bartlett
1988-06-23 13:01 ` Arny B. Engelson
1988-06-27 18:01 ` Dave Seward
1988-06-29 13:32 ` brucej
1988-06-17 14:48 ` rjs
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