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From: Brian Rogoff <bpr@shell5.ba.best.com>
Subject: Re: friend classes in ada95 (long)
Date: 2000/04/19
Date: 2000-04-19T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0004190940010.25640-100000@shell5.ba.best.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: hP3L4.4922$r8.6755436@news-east.usenetserver.com

On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, David Botton wrote:
> What I am looking to do is introduce interface MI in to Ada syntax. And if I
> am already going to implement it, I might as well do it in a way that would
> make it easier to write a COM object in raw Ada. I would still never suggest
> any one try and write COM objects with out a framework like GNATCOM, much as
> most people would never write COM objects in C++ with out ATL or MFC.
> 
> Of course, I can already do interface MI in Ada already, so this is really
> just about syntax. 

Hmmm. I find that interface MI is very clumsy in Ada. Are you saying that
you find it as easy in Ada as in Java? Somehow I think I must be
misunderstanding you; please give an example of interface MI in Ada. 

There was some work at grafting interface MI into C++, indeed I believe
that GNU C++ may still support the "signature" proposal of Russo and 
Baumgartner. I thought that stuff was neat, and hope something similar
finds its way into the next Ada.

Ada already handles implementation MI well enough IMO, with generics and
the access discriminant trick. 

> I am not happy that Ada comes out looking bad in OO
> circles, since most people can not bridge the gap from "class  X" to "type X
> is tagged", even though there is none.

I guess I am one of those people who, for the most part, liked the Ada
"tagged" keyword and syntax since I first learned it, so this kind of
change is uninteresting to me. 

-- Brian






  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-04-19  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-04-14  0:00 friend classes in ada95 Stefan Folkesson
2000-04-14  0:00 ` swhalen
2000-04-14  0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-04-14  0:00   ` Stefan Folkesson
2000-04-14  0:00 ` Julian Day
2000-04-14  0:00   ` Steve Folly
2000-04-14  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-17  0:00       ` John J. Rusnak
2000-04-18  0:00         ` Vincent Marciante
2000-04-18  0:00           ` John Rusnak
2000-04-18  0:00       ` Steve Folly
2000-04-14  0:00 ` John J. Rusnak
2000-04-15  0:00 ` Jeff Carter
2000-04-16  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-16  0:00     ` Jeff Carter
2000-04-16  0:00       ` David Botton
2000-04-17  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-17  0:00           ` Hyman Rosen
2000-04-17  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-16  0:00     ` David Botton
2000-04-17  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-17  0:00         ` David Botton
2000-04-17  0:00         ` David Botton
2000-04-18  0:00           ` friend classes in ada95 (long) tmoran
2000-04-18  0:00             ` David Botton
2000-04-18  0:00               ` friend classes in ada95 Stanley R. Allen
2000-04-19  0:00               ` Brian Rogoff [this message]
2000-04-19  0:00                 ` friend classes in ada95 (long) Hyman Rosen
2000-04-19  0:00                   ` Brian Rogoff
2000-04-23  0:00                     ` Hyman Rosen
2000-04-23  0:00                       ` Brian Rogoff
2000-04-24  0:00                         ` Hyman Rosen
2000-04-25  0:00                           ` Brian Rogoff
2000-04-25  0:00                             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-04-19  0:00                 ` David Botton
2000-04-19  0:00               ` MI, was Re: friend classes in ada95 tmoran
2000-04-19  0:00                 ` David Botton
2000-04-18  0:00       ` Geoff Bull
2000-04-18  0:00         ` David Botton
2000-04-18  0:00         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-04-18  0:00           ` tmoran
2000-04-18  0:00             ` John J. Rusnak
2000-04-19  0:00               ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-04-19  0:00               ` Geoff Bull
2000-04-19  0:00                 ` Ehud Lamm
2000-04-19  0:00                 ` David Botton
2000-04-19  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-20  0:00                     ` Geoff Bull
2000-04-19  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-19  0:00                 ` Jeff Susanj
2000-04-19  0:00                   ` Bill Greene
2000-04-19  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-19  0:00                     ` Jeff Carter
2000-04-19  0:00                       ` Ray Blaak
2000-04-20  0:00                         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-04-20  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-20  0:00                             ` BSCrawford
2000-04-20  0:00                             ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-04-20  0:00                             ` Brian Rogoff
2000-04-20  0:00                           ` Ray Blaak
2000-04-20  0:00                             ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-04-24  0:00                               ` Ray Blaak
2000-04-20  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-20  0:00                           ` Ray Blaak
2000-04-20  0:00                             ` Charles Hixson
2000-04-21  0:00                               ` Jon S Anthony
2000-04-21  0:00                               ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-04-29  0:00                                 ` Aidan Skinner
2000-04-29  0:00                                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-04-20  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-20  0:00                         ` Jeff Carter
2000-04-21  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-21  0:00                             ` Ken Garlington
2000-04-21  0:00                             ` Jon S Anthony
2000-04-22  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-19  0:00                   ` tmoran
2000-04-19  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-19  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-18  0:00           ` Pascal Obry
2000-04-18  0:00           ` David Botton
2000-04-18  0:00           ` John Rusnak
2000-04-19  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-17  0:00     ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-04-18  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-19  0:00         ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-04-20  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-20  0:00             ` Ray Blaak
2000-04-23  0:00             ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-04-19  0:00     ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-04-19  0:00       ` Ray Blaak
2000-04-19  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
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