From: Brian Rogoff <bpr@shell5.ba.best.com>
Subject: Re: Why is it Called a Package?
Date: 2000/04/07
Date: 2000-04-07T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
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On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Samuel T. Harris wrote:
> Pascal Obry wrote:
> > Brian Rogoff <bpr@shell5.ba.best.com> a écrit dans le message :
> > Pine.BSF.4.21.0004061305320.6588-100000@shell5.ba.best.com...
> > > I think if the syntax were to be redone I'd like the issue of "()" versus
> > > "[]" for array indexing to be reexamined. Then we could also think about
> > > some syntactic sugar for overloading "[]" as in C++. The restrictions on
> > > the character set that were part of the original Ada requirements don't
> > > make a lot of sense to me now, though the restriction to ASCII is OK.
> >
> > I don't think we want that. A very nice consequence here is that you can
> > easily change an abstraction from:
> >
> > package P is
> > Some_Value : array (1 .. 10) of Integer;
> > -- first quick implementation using basic array
> > end P;
> >
> > to
> >
> > package P is
> > function Some_Value (N : in Positive) return Integer;
> > -- real implementation using a complex structure
> > end P;
> >
> > (or the other way around) without modifying all client code.
I didn't see Pascal's original message, but this is the original reason
given for this choice. I've never had to do this, and I don't find this
reason compelling. It sure seems easy enough to wrap everything with
function calls if you want to enforce a uniform syntax in the client code.
> > I really don't see what would be gained by using "[]"... a more
> > C/C++ syntax :)
Readability suffers from using the () for both IMO. As I said though, this
is not a discussion about a change to Ada but about a *new* Ada like
language.
I think its unfortunate that anything connected with C or C++ causes such
a reaction in Ada fans. Consider that for most programmers Ada elicits a
similar knee-jerk response. Remember, all programming languages suck :-)
> I'd rather see [] and {} be allowed as substitutions for ()
> in a similar way that ! of allowed for |, % is allowed for ",
> and : is allowed for #. Of course, just as %'s substituded for "
> have to be paired, so would {} and [] substitutions.
I don't like this idea. This would cause too many divergences in styles
in the Ada community.
> I see no compelling reason why array indexing
> must be syntactically different from function calls.
Because they are different.
"Some believe that we lacked the programming language to describe your
perfect world"
Agent Smith - The Matrix (1999)
-- Brian
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-03-27 0:00 Why is it Called a Package? Gary Scott
2000-03-27 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
2000-03-27 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-29 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-03-29 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-30 0:00 ` Geoff Bull
2000-03-30 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-30 0:00 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2000-03-30 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-04-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-06 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Paul Graham
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-04-08 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-04-09 0:00 ` Stefan Skoglund
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff [this message]
2000-04-08 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-04-12 0:00 ` Comment from the trenchs Robert Brantley
2000-04-13 0:00 ` Jeff Carter
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Robert Brantley
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Why is it Called a Package? Robert A Duff
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-04-07 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-08 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-03-28 0:00 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2000-03-28 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-30 0:00 ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-03-31 0:00 ` Anders Wirzenius
2000-03-28 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-03-29 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-03-27 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-03-27 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-28 0:00 ` Gary Scott
2000-03-27 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
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