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From: Brian Rogoff <bpr@shell5.ba.best.com>
Subject: Re: Why is it Called a Package?
Date: 2000/04/07
Date: 2000-04-07T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0004070821240.28379-100000@shell5.ba.best.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8ckfsp$ab8$1@nnrp1.deja.com

Robert, the context of Bob Duff's message was the discussion of a new 
Ada variant without the constraint of backward compatibility. I was 
certainly not proposing revisiting Ada's syntax! I'm surprised that you 
read it that way. Perhaps I should have called it Bab or something else
:-)

Given the character set restrictions, wasn't the issue of "[]" pretty much 
a foregone conclusion?

Yes, uder defined overloadings of [] is a semantic issue, but I wouldn't 
think it a good idea if () were used for functions and arrays. I don't 
like C++'s "()" overloading, only the "[]" one.

-- Brian

On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Robert Dewar wrote:

> In article
> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0004061305320.6588-100000@shell5.ba.best.com>,
>   Brian Rogoff <bpr@shell5.ba.best.com> wrote:
> 
> > I think if the syntax were to be redone I'd like the issue of
> "()" versus
> > "[]" for array indexing to be reexamined. Then we could also
> think about
> > some syntactic sugar for overloading "[]" as in C++. The
> restrictions on
> > the character set that were part of the original Ada
> requirements don't
> > make a lot of sense to me now, though the restriction to ASCII
> is OK.
> 
> 
> There is no point in revisiting this, because nothing has
> changed since Ada 95. The reason for not differentiating
> [] vs () has to do with referential transparency (i.e.
> arrays are conceptually like functions) not with character
> set restrictions.
> 
> Yes, there are arguments on both sides.
> 
> Yes, these arguments are well known since 1960
> 
> Yes, these arguments were brought up during the Ada design
> 
> No, they did not convince people that [] is a good idea
> 
> No, nothing has changed that would suggest revisiting this issue
> 
> The question of overloading indexing is of course a completely
> separate one, since this is not a matter of syntax but
> semantics, and is thus completely orthogonal.
> 
> 
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> Before you buy.
> 





  reply	other threads:[~2000-04-07  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-03-27  0:00 Why is it Called a Package? Gary Scott
2000-03-27  0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-03-27  0:00 ` Nick Roberts
2000-03-27  0:00   ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-29  0:00     ` Florian Weimer
2000-03-29  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-30  0:00         ` Geoff Bull
2000-03-30  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-30  0:00             ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2000-03-30  0:00               ` David Starner
2000-04-03  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-06  0:00             ` Brian Rogoff
2000-04-07  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-07  0:00                 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-04-07  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-08  0:00                     ` Brian Rogoff
2000-04-07  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-07  0:00                 ` Brian Rogoff [this message]
2000-04-07  0:00                   ` Hyman Rosen
2000-04-07  0:00                     ` Brian Rogoff
2000-04-12  0:00                 ` Comment from the trenchs Robert Brantley
2000-04-13  0:00                   ` Jeff Carter
2000-04-17  0:00                     ` Robert Brantley
2000-04-07  0:00               ` Why is it Called a Package? Pascal Obry
2000-04-07  0:00                 ` Paul Graham
2000-04-07  0:00                 ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-04-07  0:00                   ` Brian Rogoff
2000-04-08  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-07  0:00                   ` Richard D Riehle
2000-04-08  0:00                     ` Florian Weimer
2000-04-09  0:00                       ` Stefan Skoglund
2000-04-07  0:00                   ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-03-28  0:00   ` Ken Garlington
2000-03-28  0:00   ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2000-03-28  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-30  0:00     ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-03-31  0:00       ` Anders Wirzenius
2000-03-29  0:00   ` Florian Weimer
2000-03-27  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-03-27  0:00   ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-28  0:00     ` Gary Scott
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