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From: Brian Rogoff <bpr@shell5.ba.best.com>
Subject: Re: Project: FreeOS
Date: 2000/01/17
Date: 2000-01-17T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0001171527100.3496-100000@shell5.ba.best.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3883915C.56A@Ganymede.com

On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Bill Greene wrote:
> Jan Kroken wrote:
> > I disagree. Ada is a low level language, and should not be marketed
> > as an alternative to Java, VB[0], Python, Perl, Lisp or other high
> > level languages, ...
> > 
> > As a one line summary: The language we're trying to replace is C.
> 
> Some would characterize Ada as a "wide-spectrum language."  Certainly
> you can program at the lowest level of abstraction in Ada.  This is one
> of the uses for which Ada was designed, and it was designed well!

Yes, Ada is an excellent wide-spectrum language, because it can do
low-level stuff well. I agree with Jan though that Ada is fairly low
level, especially when compared with Smalltalk, Common Lisp, Prolog,
Python, Icon, etc. 

Robert Dewar wrote an interesting opinion on why Java is a disappointment; 
in a nutshell, Java forces you to pay the price of a VHLL but doesn't give
you a much higher level view of programming than C or C++, except that you
get garbage collection. 

> But Ada can also be used as a high-level language.  I certainly don't
> see how Java or Visual Basic are high level languages and Ada is not.

OK, Java and VB were bad picks as representative HLLs. "Scripting language" 
is the right term for VB. Have you programmed in Scheme or OCaml? It is 
very different from Ada! 

> IIRC, there was an Ada translator in the early 1980s (from
> Carnegie-Mellon?) that generated LISP code as its intermediate
> representation.

A C to Ada translator is possible too, but its existence wouldn't imply
that C is a higher level language than Ada!

-- Brian





  reply	other threads:[~2000-01-17  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-01-12  0:00 Project: FreeOS Alfred Hilscher
2000-01-12  0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-12  0:00 ` Gautier
2000-01-13  0:00 ` Juergen Pfeifer
2000-01-13  0:00   ` David Starner
2000-01-13  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-01-13  0:00       ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-13  0:00         ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-13  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-15  0:00             ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-17  0:00               ` Terry Sikes
2000-01-13  0:00         ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2000-01-13  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-01-13  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-13  0:00   ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-13  0:00     ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-14  0:00       ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-01-14  0:00         ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-14  0:00   ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-01-14  0:00     ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-14  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-01-16  0:00         ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-18  0:00         ` Charles Hixson
2000-01-14  0:00       ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-01-14  0:00       ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-01-18  0:00         ` Charles Hixson
2000-01-18  0:00           ` David Starner
2000-01-19  0:00           ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-19  0:00             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-01-19  0:00               ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-19  0:00               ` Mario Klebsch
2000-01-20  0:00             ` Bryce Bardin
2000-01-22  0:00               ` Chris Morgan
2000-01-15  0:00 ` Michael Garrett
     [not found]   ` <vhi3drwe773.fsf@grotte.ifi.uio.no>
2000-01-17  0:00     ` Bill Greene
2000-01-17  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff [this message]
2000-01-18  0:00         ` Aidan Skinner
2000-01-19  0:00           ` Jon S Anthony
2000-01-19  0:00         ` Jon S Anthony
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