* ADA vs VHDL @ 1998-10-29 0:00 Gerhard Griessnig 1998-10-30 0:00 ` Frank Oppenheimer 1998-10-30 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Gerhard Griessnig @ 1998-10-29 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Hello! We are two Austrian Students and visit this group for the first time. We need a comparison between VHDL and ADA in Hardware/Software - Codesign and simulation. Does anybody know needful information or literature. Thanks for all answers Gerhard & Peter ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: ADA vs VHDL 1998-10-29 0:00 ADA vs VHDL Gerhard Griessnig @ 1998-10-30 0:00 ` Frank Oppenheimer 1998-10-30 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Frank Oppenheimer @ 1998-10-30 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Gerhard Griessnig Gerhard Griessnig wrote: > > Hello! > We are two Austrian Students and visit this group for the first time. > > We need a comparison between VHDL and ADA in Hardware/Software - > Codesign and simulation. > Does anybody know needful information or literature. > > Thanks for all answers > > Gerhard & Peter Hello to Austria, we are currently working in Ada95/VHDL cosimulation project. So we have some experience in cosimulation and codesign with Ada and VHDL. Since your question was rather unspecific I can just recommend the following refernces. B�ttger, J; Ecker, W.: Comparing Ada'95 and VHDL for Behavioural Hardware Description on Causal and Synchronous Level. Proceedings of the SIG-VHDL Spring Working Conference: VHDL User's Forum in Europe, Publication Service of the University of Cantabria, 1997 Ecker, W.; B�ttger, J.: Evaluation of Ada'95 and VHDL for System Level Modeling. Proceedings of the VIUF Spring 1997 Conference, Santa Clara, USA, 1997 Sheraga, R. J.: ANSI C to Behavioral VHDL Translator, Ada to Behavioral VHDL Translator. The RASSP Digest, Vol. 3, September 1996, Available on the WWW from URL http://rassp.scra.org/newsletter/html/96sep/news_11.html Tempelmeier, T.: VHDL and Ada. Proceedings of the Fourth Symposium Ada in Aerospace. To appear, Brussel Eurospace, Paris 1993 Frank P.S> Most of those papers are also available in german. -- Dipl. Inform. Frank Oppenheimer | Entwurf integrierter Schaltungen Universit"at Oldenburg (FB 10) | frank.oppenheimer@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de Postfach 25 03 | Raum : A4 2-225 D-26111 Oldenburg | Tel : +49-441-7982197 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: ADA vs VHDL 1998-10-29 0:00 ADA vs VHDL Gerhard Griessnig 1998-10-30 0:00 ` Frank Oppenheimer @ 1998-10-30 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen 1998-10-30 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff 1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Jean-Pierre Rosen @ 1998-10-30 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Gerhard Griessnig a �crit dans le message <3638C82B.ECC52B40@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at>... >Hello! >We are two Austrian Students and visit this group for the first time. > >We need a comparison between VHDL and ADA in Hardware/Software - >Codesign and simulation. >Does anybody know needful information or literature. > There is a connection between the languages; in a sense, VHDL is to hardware what Ada is to software. For example, there is an Ada CD-ROM tha includes also some VHDL. If you want to have a picture of Ada, the best is to turn to http://www.adahome.com. I don't know of a similar place for VHDL, but you should find it using any usual search engine. As far as codesign is concerned, I remember years ago seeing a tool that would generate VHDL for the hardware part and Ada for the software. But it was a long time ago, and I'm sorry I can't give more precisions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- J-P. Rosen (Rosen.Adalog@wanadoo.fr) Visit Adalog's web site at http://perso.wanadoo.fr/adalog ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: ADA vs VHDL 1998-10-30 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen @ 1998-10-30 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Brian Rogoff @ 1998-10-30 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN, Size: 1369 bytes --] On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Jean-Pierre Rosen wrote: > Gerhard Griessnig a écrit dans le message ... snip ... > >We need a comparison between VHDL and ADA in Hardware/Software - > >Codesign and simulation. > >Does anybody know needful information or literature. > > > There is a connection between the languages; in a sense, VHDL is to hardware > what Ada is to software. For example, there is an Ada CD-ROM tha includes > also > some VHDL. Well, I sure hope that isn't true, otherwise Ada has little chance of acceptance in the US hardware design community, where VHDL is in general not thought of highly. Yes, I realize that the same statement could be made about Ada, but IMO the added complexity of Ada over C brings significant advantages to the programmer (not to mention that Ada is *less* complicated than C++) which the added complexity of VHDL over Verilog does not bring to the hardware designer. VHDL has mostly a superficial similarity to Ada, having butchered both the package system and generics. That's my opinion, worth every cent you paid for it ;-) That doesn't mean I think Verilog is great, just that the analogy Ada:VHDL as C:Verilog doesn't work for me. There was someone proposing to use an Ada subset for hardware design, and I posted the reference in response to another query a while ago. -- Brian ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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