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From: Brian Rogoff <bpr@shell5.ba.best.com>
Subject: Re: Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement
Date: 1998/02/16
Date: 1998-02-16T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980216154526.16866B-100000@shell5.ba.best.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.887669672@merv


On 16 Feb 1998, Robert Dewar wrote:
> The question was about the difficulty of writing compilers. There are
> some things that are easier to optimize in Ada, and somethings that are
> harder (e.g. the result of separaqtely compiling subunits).

Sure, I was pursuing a more interesting (to me) line of questioning about 
whether Ada allowed more optimizations in general than C++. 

> As for C++ grammar being tricky, not really, parsing is a very small part
> of the problem (and relatively easy) in both cases, I don't see a difference
> here of any significance.

Agreed that parsing is "in the noise", but I think the difficulty of
writing a correct parser which handles all of C++ is well known. That's a 
question which comes up on the compiler newsgroup frequently, and so far 
I don't think there is a freely available or PD parser which handles 
anything beyond ATT v2.x. Also, parsers are used in other source analysis 
programs than compilers, so the ease of writing a parser for a language
has some impact on other tools. 

-- Brian






  reply	other threads:[~1998-02-16  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-02-15  0:00 Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-15  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-16  0:00   ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-16  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-16  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff [this message]
1998-02-17  0:00         ` Andi Kleen
1998-02-17  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-17  0:00       ` Geert Bosch
1998-02-19  0:00         ` Parsing Ada and C++ Steve Furlong
1998-02-16  0:00   ` Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-16  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-16  0:00       ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-17  0:00         ` Simon Wright
1998-02-18  0:00           ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-18  0:00             ` Stanley R. Allen
1998-02-18  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-19  0:00               ` Stanley R. Allen
1998-02-20  0:00                 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-03-05  0:00             ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-02-17  0:00         ` Joe Gwinn
1998-02-17  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-02-18  0:00             ` vonhend
1998-02-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-22  0:00               ` Simon Wright
1998-02-18  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-02-17  0:00             ` Dan Moran
1998-02-18  0:00             ` Joe Gwinn
1998-02-17  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18  0:00           ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-19  0:00             ` John English
1998-02-22  0:00               ` Luis Espinal
1998-02-22  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-23  0:00                   ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-24  0:00                     ` Jonas Nygren
1998-02-24  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-02-25  0:00                         ` Keith Thompson
1998-02-25  0:00                         ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-20  0:00             ` Markus Kuhn
1998-02-20  0:00               ` Laurent Guerby
1998-03-03  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1998-03-03  0:00                 ` Stanley R. Allen
1998-02-19  0:00           ` Ada's complexity Steve Furlong
1998-02-20  0:00             ` Markus Kuhn
1998-02-16  0:00     ` Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement Jon S Anthony
1998-02-16  0:00     ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-16  0:00     ` Ralph Paul
1998-02-16  0:00 ` nabbasi
1998-02-16  0:00   ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-16  0:00     ` nabbasi
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1998-02-18  0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
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