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From: "AG" <ang@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Ada but
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:56 +1200
Date: 2003-04-18T10:39:56+12:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <P2Gna.4506$mZ4.83822@news.xtra.co.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wcche8wpz6x.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com

"Robert A Duff" <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote in message
news:wcche8wpz6x.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com...

> > We need to think about the _larger_ picture here. Too many people
> > are stuck in the "let's filter" thinking, which is only a half
> > measure. I'd like to challenge everyone to look to at a solicited
> > email only solution. This is the _only_ way to eliminate unwanted
> > mail (proof witheld ;-)
>
> But I *want* unsolicited email in some cases

Well, if you do that's fine.

> , like when somebody sends,
> "Hey, you've never heard of me, but I heard your company (SofCheck,
> Inc.) make static analysis tools, which I might want to buy.  Please
> tell me more."

If you expect that sort of mail in a free-for-all mailbox
you would probably have some people sifting through
all the junk coming into it - even after any reasonable
filters killed half of it (and paying the costs of course).

> I don't want to pester such a person with extra hassles
> involving encryption, or transactions of $0.02 and refunds thereof.

However, suppose I want to have a mailbox which
is freely visible and accessible. I might actually buy
something that's advertised on that unsolicited mail.

But: let's say any mail to that mailbox is automatically
charged that $0.02 after 48 hours unless I cancel
that in the meantime. (Any e-mail that can't be traced
or charged is automatically rejected). Now, that would
allow two things: Any person/company/organization
that has a legitimate reason to use it need not worry -
no charge happens. Any would-be seller is free to try
it (at $0.02 it's not a big deal if you really hope for
a sale and it may even be refunded if the sale works).

However, in the case of mass-mailer spam that would
quickly become prohibitive: If you can't be charged
you don't get to post. If you can, then, say, a million
posts to such addresses would mean $20,000
investment up front with little chance of recovery ...





  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-17 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-16 12:53 If anybody wants to make something in Ada but do not know what Preben Randhol
2003-04-16 13:59 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-16 16:10   ` rd
2003-04-16 16:34     ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Ada but do not know what) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-16 17:00       ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Ada but Larry Kilgallen
2003-04-16 17:43         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-16 18:03           ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-04-16 18:48             ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Ada tmoran
2003-04-16 20:58               ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-04-17 16:51             ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Ada but Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-17 21:54               ` Robert A Duff
2003-04-17 22:39                 ` AG [this message]
2003-04-18  8:27                 ` Preben Randhol
2003-04-17 23:38               ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Adabut Randy Brukardt
2003-04-18  0:06                 ` AG
2003-04-18  0:32                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-04-18  0:48                     ` AG
2003-04-18  2:10                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-04-18  3:13                         ` AG
2003-04-18  4:50                           ` tmoran
2003-04-18 11:26                             ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-04-18 11:23                         ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                         ` <g3Kna.5120$mZ4.89596@news.xtra.co.nzOrganization: LJK Software <JKMUgN4L70TN@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2003-04-19  6:36                           ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-04-21 18:50                     ` Randy Brukardt
2003-04-18  7:32                 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2003-04-18 11:32                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-04-19  4:45                     ` [way off-topic] A new spammer is born? Wesley Groleau
2003-04-19 20:10                   ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Adabut Georg Bauhaus
2003-04-19 21:15                     ` AG
2003-04-20 15:31                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-04-21  3:33                         ` Wesley Groleau
2003-04-16 19:19           ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Ada Larry Kilgallen
2003-04-16 21:38       ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Ada butdo not know what) rd
2003-04-16 22:03         ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-04-17  0:16           ` rd
2003-04-17 16:59           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-17 16:58         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-17 22:02         ` Robert A Duff
2003-04-16 19:16     ` If anybody wants to make something in Ada but do not know what Pascal Obry
2003-04-16 19:42       ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-04-24 13:55   ` Frode Tenneboe
2003-04-28 16:00     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-28 17:28       ` Preben Randhol
2003-04-28 19:53         ` Wesley Groleau
2003-04-29  6:14           ` Preben Randhol
2003-04-29 17:40       ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-04-16 17:52 ` Jano
2003-04-16 18:43 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-04-16 20:03   ` Randy Brukardt
2003-04-16 20:01 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-04-16 23:21   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-04-17  8:05     ` AG
2003-04-17 16:52       ` Wesley Groleau
2003-04-17 22:02         ` AG
2003-04-17 22:58     ` Randy Brukardt
2003-04-19  6:28       ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-04-23 19:32         ` Robert C. Leif
2003-04-24  1:35           ` Wesley Groleau
2003-04-16 23:26   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-04-17 22:28     ` Randy Brukardt
2003-04-30 12:44 ` Frank
2003-04-30 19:59   ` Free SVG tools Nick Roberts
2003-05-02  4:54     ` Steve Bowen
2003-05-02 20:12       ` Martin Holmes
2003-05-03 18:54         ` Steve Bowen
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