Re: Why don't large companies use Ada?

[gjong@cerfnet.com]

Dear David:

Thought you might know of some people who might be qualified and interested 
in several Oracle related jobs we have available at Xircom.  I've attached 
job descriptions for the available jobs.  Would appreciate it if you would 
pass them along to potential leads/candidates, or refer leads to me for 
follow up.  All 3 positions offer extraordinary opportunities within a 
company experiencing geometric growth.  

Regards, 

G. Jong
Director of Recruitment
Xircom


ORACLE Implementation Project Leader:

Will have overall responsibility for implementing and upgrading Oracle 
Application Systems world-wide (US, Europe, Asia) including: 

*  Developing  project schedules and organize projects to achieve 
   major project goals

*  Managing Oracle implementation projects in Europe and Asia

*  Managing Oracle migration projects to new releases world-wide

*  Communicating project status to project steering committee

*  Conducting  regular project meetings with project team members

*  Tracking  project/system issues and insure resources are available 
   to resolve/complete work in a timely manner

Requirements:

* Bachelor's degree in a related field

* Five years experience in systems analysis within a manufacturing 
  environment, with a minimum of two years programming experience

* Previous experience implementing and upgrading  application 
   systems, ideally, Oracle on a multi-national level

* Capability and willingness to travel abroad; specifically, Europe and  
Asia
 
Salary: $75k - 90K with stock participation.
*************************************************************************
Systems Analyst:

* A BS degree in Computer Science/Information Systems

* A minimum of 2 years programming experience (ORACLE Applications in a 

  Windows/Novell/Unix environment is highly desirable) 

* Three years experience in systems analysis  

* Previous experience within a manufacturing environment.

The position requires a team player who is customer-service and quality 
oriented with the ability to solve problems and achieve results in a 
timely fashion.  

The selected individual will have overall responsibility for the 
implementation and support of the application modules for one of three 
areas of users (Operations, Finance, or Sales/Marketing).  

Salary:  $50-65k with stock participation
**********************************************************************

Network Systems Engineer :

A BS degree and a minimum of 4 years experience in a 200+ user network, a 
minimum of one year of experience inNetWare administration, and CNE 
certification.  Familiarity with Uix, Novell, Windows (NT), OS/2, Internet 
and Synoptics/Cisco hardware is highly desirable.

The selected individual will have the opportunity to architect a "Premier 
Multinational Network" which will be robust (eg. 100% availability with 
sub-second response time) and feature-rich (eg. FDDI or ATM backbone, 
Ethernet/FDDI/ATM switches, routers, "super servers", server for HD-to-HD 
backup, tape drives, Unix, Netware, NT, OS/2, Windows, MacIntosh, email). 

Salary:  $65-75k with stock participation

Interested/qualified candidates are welcome to email resumes to: 
jobs@xircom.com; fax resumes to 805-376-9030; or mail resumes to: Xircom, 
2300 Corporate Center Drive, Thousand Oaks, CA 91320.
  

In article <EMERY.94Nov15094017@goldfinger.mitre.org>, 
<emery@goldfinger.mitre.org> writes:
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> From: emery@goldfinger.mitre.org (David Emery)
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> Subject: Re: Why don't large companies use Ada?
> Date: 15 Nov 94 09:40:17
> Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA.
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comp.databases.sybase:12826 comp.databases.oracle:22250 
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> 
> >Ada developers are rare.  C/C++ developers are all over the place.  
> 
> It's a big mistake to equate C and C++ programmers.  There's a
> substantial difference in approach between the two languages.  In my
> observation, the number of C programmers >> the number of C++
> programmers.  What's worse, the number of people claiming to
> know C++ >> the number of people who actually understand the language.
> 
> Thus a lot of alleged C++ is nothing more than bad C with 'OOP-sugar'
> sprinkled over the code.
> 
> 				dave
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