From: Dale Stanbrough <MrNoSpam@bigpoop.net.au>
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: GNAT Programming System 1.4.0 release
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:59:18 GMT
Date: 2003-11-24T10:59:18+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <MrNoSpam-73052B.21591824112003@news-server.bigpond.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: slrnbs3kg9.qo.randhol+valid_for_reply_from_news@kiuk0152.chembio.ntnu.no
Preben Randhol wrote:
> No I'm arguing that he will lack the understanding of the usage of the
> program. Say you are making a program for some IT department in a
> company. You design it very nice and the UI designer makes the GUI very
> nice and spiffy. Then the user who is going to do a change on the status
> of 200 employees sits and curses because he has to click with his mouse
> all day to get the job done instead of simply running a script or some
> such. The example is a bit extrem, but it brings out my point and that
> is that it is the user who knows where the bottlenecks and annoyances
> are. If the developer IS a user too he should be able to make a much
> better program.
I think people dismiss too easily the skills and professionalism of
other workers; putting at naught their training and experience.
I often see engineers who -think- they don't need professional
programmers because -they- can program a small C program.
One such program I saw had -no- indenting at all. All column 1
code!
You are doing much the same to GUI people. No one was saying that
a GUI designer sits in isolation, weaving their magic without
consulting anyone. Just as we would not expect a systems analyst
to do a requirements without the customer.
The GUI designer will sit -with- a programmer (the customer) and
work with him/her, each bringing their own insights and skills to
the problem at hand.
To think that the programmer could replace the GUI designer is
like an automotive engineer dismissing a car designer, or a
fruit vendor dismissing a chef.
Dale
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dstanbro@spam.o.matic.bigpond.net.au
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-11-20 17:22 ANNOUNCE: GNAT Programming System 1.4.0 release Arnaud Charlet
2003-11-20 18:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-11-20 18:42 ` Preben Randhol
2003-11-20 19:05 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-11-20 19:33 ` Preben Randhol
2003-11-21 8:37 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-11-21 14:42 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-11-21 14:53 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-11-21 15:05 ` René Möhring
2003-11-21 15:27 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-11-21 15:55 ` Stephane Richard
2003-11-23 13:19 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-11-23 13:38 ` Preben Randhol
[not found] ` <pvo791-rj3.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
2003-11-24 0:56 ` Stephane Richard
[not found] ` <h1f891-9v3.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
2003-11-24 8:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-11-24 9:33 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-11-21 18:12 ` Preben Randhol
2003-11-21 18:49 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-11-21 19:55 ` Preben Randhol
2003-11-23 2:16 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-11-23 2:34 ` Stephane Richard
2003-11-23 2:37 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-11-23 9:44 ` Preben Randhol
2003-11-23 14:24 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-11-23 14:39 ` Preben Randhol
2003-11-23 14:46 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-11-24 9:33 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-11-24 13:05 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-11-24 13:06 ` Preben Randhol
2003-11-24 14:09 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-11-24 14:17 ` Preben Randhol
2003-11-24 17:26 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-11-24 9:40 ` Preben Randhol
2003-11-24 10:59 ` Dale Stanbrough [this message]
2003-11-24 12:44 ` Preben Randhol
2003-11-24 14:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-11-22 13:19 ` Marin David Condic
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2003-11-21 8:54 christoph.grein
2003-11-21 11:10 ` René Möhring
2003-11-21 13:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-11-21 13:59 ` Preben Randhol
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