* Getting modular type size in bits
@ 2003-03-14 15:03 Jano
2003-03-14 15:41 ` Robert A Duff
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From: Jano @ 2003-03-14 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello,
maybe I'm overlooking something really silly:
I have a generic function, for example:
generic
type Number is Mod <>;
function Do(X: Number) return Number;
I need to perform operations based on the logical type size, i.e.
if the type is
type Number is Mod 2**32;
I want to know that the type size is 5. I'm aware of the 'modulus
attribute, and 'size. If I understand correctly, 'size returns the size
allocated by the compiler for the type (normally 8 in this case), not
the _minimum_ size to allocate it (which is what I would need in that
case).
I can think of performing a log2 op, or some iterative proc to find it,
but I would know if there is some ultra-efficient method (because the
compiler has to know, I suppose, that size), because that function could
be potentially called many times in loops.
If I were using a generic package, I could perform that calculus in
elaboration time, but is a generic function and I'd like to maintain it
like that if possible. Other possibility but I can't think a mean of
doing it would be a static expression who evaluates to that value, place
it in the declarative part of the function, and hope that it will not be
re-evaluated in each call... I don't know if it works that way.
I'm getting off course? Can you point me in the right direction?
Many thanks,
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Jano
402450[at]cepsz.unizar.es
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* Re: Getting modular type size in bits
2003-03-14 15:03 Getting modular type size in bits Jano
@ 2003-03-14 15:41 ` Robert A Duff
2003-03-14 15:48 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-03-14 21:05 ` Jano
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From: Robert A Duff @ 2003-03-14 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
Jano <402450@cepsz.unizar.es> writes:
> type Number is Mod 2**32;
>
> I want to know that the type size is 5. I'm aware of the 'modulus
> attribute, and 'size. If I understand correctly, 'size returns the size
> allocated by the compiler for the type (normally 8 in this case), not
> the _minimum_ size to allocate it (which is what I would need in that
> case).
'Size returns the minimum -- i.e. how big it would be if it were a
component of a packed record. That's 32 in this case. If it were
"mod 2**5", then Number'Size would be 5, not 8.
- Bob
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* Re: Getting modular type size in bits
2003-03-14 15:41 ` Robert A Duff
@ 2003-03-14 15:48 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-03-14 17:20 ` Robert A Duff
2003-03-14 21:05 ` Jano
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From: Lutz Donnerhacke @ 2003-03-14 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
* Robert A Duff wrote:
> Jano <402450@cepsz.unizar.es> writes:
>> I want to know that the type size is 5. I'm aware of the 'modulus
>> attribute, and 'size. If I understand correctly, 'size returns the size
>> allocated by the compiler for the type (normally 8 in this case), not
>> the _minimum_ size to allocate it (which is what I would need in that
>> case).
>
> 'Size returns the minimum -- i.e. how big it would be if it were a
> component of a packed record. That's 32 in this case. If it were
> "mod 2**5", then Number'Size would be 5, not 8.
$ cat t.adb
with Ada.Text_IO;
procedure t is
type A is mod 2**5;
for A'Size use 8;
begin
Ada.Text_IO.Put_Line(Natural'Image(A'Size));
declare
type B is new A;
begin
Ada.Text_IO.Put_Line(Natural'Image(B'Size));
end;
end t;
$ ./t
8
8
$ _
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* Re: Getting modular type size in bits
2003-03-14 15:48 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
@ 2003-03-14 17:20 ` Robert A Duff
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From: Robert A Duff @ 2003-03-14 17:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lutz Donnerhacke <lutz@iks-jena.de> writes:
> * Robert A Duff wrote:
> > Jano <402450@cepsz.unizar.es> writes:
> >> I want to know that the type size is 5. I'm aware of the 'modulus
> >> attribute, and 'size. If I understand correctly, 'size returns the size
> >> allocated by the compiler for the type (normally 8 in this case), not
> >> the _minimum_ size to allocate it (which is what I would need in that
> >> case).
> >
> > 'Size returns the minimum -- i.e. how big it would be if it were a
> > component of a packed record. That's 32 in this case. If it were
> > "mod 2**5", then Number'Size would be 5, not 8.
>
> $ cat t.adb
> with Ada.Text_IO;
>
> procedure t is
> type A is mod 2**5;
> for A'Size use 8;
> begin
> Ada.Text_IO.Put_Line(Natural'Image(A'Size));
> declare
> type B is new A;
> begin
> Ada.Text_IO.Put_Line(Natural'Image(B'Size));
> end;
> end t;
> $ ./t
> 8
> 8
> $ _
So? You asked for 8, and you got 8. And it will be (at least) 8 bits
in a packed record. If you take out the "for A'Size ...", which was not
in the original poster's example, it should be 5.
- Bob
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* Re: Getting modular type size in bits
2003-03-14 15:41 ` Robert A Duff
2003-03-14 15:48 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
@ 2003-03-14 21:05 ` Jano
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jano @ 2003-03-14 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
Robert A Duff (bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com) dice...
> Jano <402450@cepsz.unizar.es> writes:
>
> > type Number is Mod 2**32;
> >
> > I want to know that the type size is 5. I'm aware of the 'modulus
> > attribute, and 'size. If I understand correctly, 'size returns the size
> > allocated by the compiler for the type (normally 8 in this case), not
> > the _minimum_ size to allocate it (which is what I would need in that
> > case).
>
> 'Size returns the minimum -- i.e. how big it would be if it were a
> component of a packed record. That's 32 in this case. If it were
> "mod 2**5", then Number'Size would be 5, not 8.
Sorry about the typo. Really, the declaration should be, as you
correctly note,
type Number is mod 2 ** 5;
<minutes later>
Argh, and testing now 'size, I see it returns 5. Mind you, to that I was
refering with "silly thing". Because I tested it previously and made the
same mistake, using the modulus in place of the size!!!!!! Silly me,
silly me, silly me... now I should be happy because my problem is solved
:) but anyways...
In regard to Lutz post, is fine for me to obtain size 8 if you force the
size explicitely.
Many thanks,
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Jano
402450[at]cepsz.unizar.es
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