From: matt@physics10.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern)
Subject: Re: Language Efficiency
Date: 1995/04/20
Date: 1995-04-20T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <MATT.95Apr20113010@physics10.berkeley.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3lrrqk$kbj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu
In article <dewar.798342918@gnat> dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:
> Yes indeed (see the whole program at once, and you have to write two
> compilers). To argue that language features make it easier or more
> difficult to achieve X is one thing, to argue that these differences
> are fundamental is another.
I think everybody agress about what's going on, we're just choosing to
emphasize different things.
If certain optimizations are possible in principle in two different
languages, but if they are vastly more difficult in one language than
in the other, then it is both correct and misleading to say that
efficiency differences between the two languages are purely issues of
implementation.
"Possible in principle" and "possible" are two different concepts.
--
Matt Austern matt@physics.berkeley.edu
http://dogbert.lbl.gov/~matt
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1995-04-02 0:00 Language Efficiency Robert C. Bethel
1995-04-04 0:00 ` Bob Kitzberger
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Mike Wilson
1995-04-05 0:00 ` David Weller
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1995-04-04 0:00 ` Harold P Zbiegien
1995-04-04 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1995-04-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-04 0:00 ` Kennel
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Ray Toal
1995-04-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Kennel
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1995-04-19 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1995-04-19 0:00 ` Multiple dispatch (was Re: C++ not OOP?) Robert I. Eachus
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1995-04-19 0:00 ` C++ not OOP? (Was: Language Efficiency Harley Davis
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1995-04-19 0:00 ` Paul Graham
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1995-04-19 0:00 ` C++ not OOP? (Was: " Fernando Mato Mira
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-19 0:00 ` David Weller
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-20 0:00 ` David Weller
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Ed Osinski
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Fernando Mato Mira
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Matt Austern
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Matt Austern
1995-04-22 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-22 0:00 ` OOAD courses by Object Mentor cjames
1995-04-22 0:00 ` C++ not OOP? (Was: Language Efficiency David Weller
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Ed Osinski
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
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1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-22 0:00 ` Robert Martin
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1995-04-21 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
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1995-04-19 0:00 ` Multiple dispatch (was Re: C++ not OOP?) Fernando Mato Mira
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1995-04-21 0:00 ` C++ not OOP? (Was: Language Efficiency James McKim
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1995-04-20 0:00 ` ron house
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Multiple dispatch (was Re: C++ not OOP?) Robert I. Eachus
1995-04-21 0:00 ` C++ not OOP? (Was: Language Efficiency Norman H. Cohen
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Fernando Mato Mira
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Erik Naggum
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1995-04-21 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1995-04-22 0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Matt Austern [this message]
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Mitch Gart
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Lawrence Free/ A.F. Software Services
1995-04-06 0:00 ` Ken Leidner
1995-04-06 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
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