From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)
Subject: Re: Cost of Ada support
Date: 27 Mar 2002 06:13:53 -0600
Date: 2002-03-27T06:13:53-06:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <L09vqBcmhujG@eisner.encompasserve.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3CA0FEDF.BF6F2C55@raytheon.com
In article <3CA0FEDF.BF6F2C55@raytheon.com>, Mark Johnson <mark_h_johnson@raytheon.com> writes:
> Adam Tissa wrote:
>>
>> "Steve Doiel" <nospam_steved94@attbi.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message
>> >> > I would strongly suggest you contact sales@gnat.com to get the actual
>> >> > cost of ACT support for GNAT. "Six figures per seat" is inaccurate
>> >> > almost to the point of libel.
>>
>> Sorry, I should have said that the minimum cost is six figures per
>> year.
>> [snip]
> Not true. As Larry said before, I suggest you call ACT for pricing. I am
> renewing annual support for well less that $100K US for support of
> 50-100 software developers. I would more likely believe the $12k figure
> you quote is for all 10 developers (not per developer).
>
>> For someone who just needs a license for one or two programmers, the
>> effective cost is the cost for 10 seats.
> Agreed. That is part of the pricing they chose to implement. They
> explained the reasoning to me - perhaps you can ask to get the same
> answer...
There was a quoting error above -- it was not I who said to call ACT.
I see nothing wrong with calling ACT, but for an explanation of that
reasoning no confidential phone discussion is required. Answering a
question at a recent Boston lecture, Robert Dewar said their pricing
model is based on experience that supporting a single developer on
the average is more expensive than supporting ten developers, since
that single developer has nobody local from whom they can get advice.
> If you need the support and its worth say 8 weeks of labor to
> pay for it, go ahead and do so. If not, ask questions on c.l.a or go to
> another vendor.
I think even those of us who do not use their compiler feel it is a
priority for ACT to stay in business.
And Robert Dewar has pointed out that if someone else wants to get
into the business of lower-priced GNAT support for smaller numbers
of users it is perfectly legal for them to do so.
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2002-03-24 0:16 ` Language support for flexible handling of system-detected errors Adam Tissa
2002-03-24 0:46 ` Jim Rogers
2002-03-24 6:45 ` Tissa Adam
2002-03-24 19:58 ` Rodrigo Cunha
2002-03-25 10:17 ` Tim Shoppa
2002-03-26 23:29 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-03-24 11:38 ` Simon Wright
2002-03-24 12:42 ` Marc A. Criley
2002-03-24 14:56 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-03-24 18:59 ` Steve Doiel
2002-03-26 22:42 ` Adam Tissa
2002-03-27 6:31 ` Simon Wright
2002-03-26 22:42 ` Cost of Ada support Adam Tissa
2002-03-26 23:06 ` Mark Johnson
2002-03-27 0:17 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-27 22:14 ` Wes Groleau
2002-03-28 15:30 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-29 3:29 ` Wes Groleau
2002-03-29 14:39 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-27 12:13 ` Larry Kilgallen [this message]
2002-03-27 9:23 ` Pascal Obry
2002-03-24 13:28 ` Language support for flexible handling of system-detected errors chris.danx
2002-03-25 12:32 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-03-24 14:52 ` Paul Repacholi
2002-03-24 22:35 ` Greg Bek
2002-03-26 6:48 ` Richard Riehle
2002-03-25 10:42 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2002-03-26 16:27 ` Wes Groleau
2002-03-28 3:10 ` Maynard Handley
2002-03-28 5:17 ` Andrew W. Reynolds
2002-03-28 15:03 ` Stefan Monnier <foo@acm.com>
2002-03-28 15:54 ` Nick Maclaren
2002-03-28 16:19 ` hack
2002-03-28 17:22 ` Nick Maclaren
2002-03-28 18:49 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-29 10:04 ` Nick Maclaren
2002-03-29 14:20 ` Wes Groleau
2002-03-29 15:09 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-01 14:28 ` Wes Groleau
2002-04-01 16:29 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-02 18:21 ` Wes Groleau
2002-03-28 15:36 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-29 14:49 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-03-29 16:56 ` hack
2002-03-29 17:14 ` Preben Randhol
2002-03-29 18:37 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-01 15:53 ` hack
2002-04-01 16:47 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-02 17:15 ` hack
2002-04-04 10:34 ` pascal stenuit
2002-04-01 17:44 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-01 18:22 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-29 18:05 ` tmoran
2002-03-29 18:41 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-30 13:46 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-01 15:35 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-28 15:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-03-29 14:44 ` Marin David Condic
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2002-04-03 14:34 ` Marin David Condic
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2002-04-04 14:48 ` Marin David Condic
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2002-04-04 15:01 ` Marin David Condic
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2002-04-05 18:07 ` Marin David Condic
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2002-04-04 7:58 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-04 15:18 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-08 17:17 ` Kevin Cline
2002-04-08 17:44 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-08 18:10 ` Nick Maclaren
2002-03-28 17:01 ` Wes Groleau
2002-03-28 17:27 ` Pascal Obry
2002-03-28 18:45 ` Simon Wright
2002-03-29 0:33 ` Ned Holbrook
2002-03-29 2:19 ` Tony Finch
2002-03-29 4:15 ` Darren New
2002-03-29 14:50 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-30 3:38 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-01 14:31 ` Wes Groleau
2002-04-01 15:46 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-02 18:28 ` Wes Groleau
2002-04-02 18:48 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-03 7:17 ` Adam Tissa
2002-04-03 17:58 ` Darren New
2002-03-29 16:28 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-03-29 17:08 ` hack
2002-03-29 17:38 ` Nick Maclaren
2002-03-30 15:06 ` Peter da Silva
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