From: <adaworks@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Separate Compilation in Programming Languages
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:56:42 GMT
Date: 2008-02-26T14:56:42+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <KMVwj.12592$J41.1824@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: uprujvnv4.fsf@stephe-leake.org
"Stephen Leake" <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org> wrote in message
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> <adaworks@sbcglobal.net> writes:
>
>> The ripple-effect will occur
>> since most of a Java design is not based on Interfaces,
>
> This is a description of a common Java _practice_, not a requirement
> of the Java _language_.
>
> So, as others have said, keeping the interface specification separate
> from the implementation is _easier_, and possibly more common, in Ada.
> But it is also _possible_ in Java.
>
But, as Mr. Kennedy notes in a separate contribution to this
thread,
"Actually, this doesn't accomplish as much as you wish, in practice, as
it will eventually be necessary to have a constructor for the real
class, or else a static factory method."
Until I began this conversation, and after doing additional research, I
was unaware of just how bad the situation with Java was. The more
I examined this issue, with that additional research, it became clear
that Ada's model is even better than I had realized.
All the protestations in favor of Java simply fail to square with the
reality of Java practice.
Richard Riehle
> --
> -- Stephe
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2008-02-22 17:35 Separate Compilation in Programming Languages adaworks
2008-02-22 17:52 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-02-23 0:23 ` adaworks
2008-02-22 18:10 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-22 23:53 ` adaworks
2008-02-23 1:40 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-23 7:29 ` adaworks
2008-02-23 18:42 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-22 18:18 ` Niklas Holsti
2008-02-23 0:14 ` adaworks
2008-02-23 7:23 ` Niklas Holsti
2008-02-23 7:31 ` Niklas Holsti
2008-02-23 16:00 ` adaworks
2008-02-23 12:27 ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-02-23 12:37 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-02-23 13:03 ` Niklas Holsti
2008-02-22 19:11 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-02-23 0:16 ` adaworks
2008-02-22 19:33 ` Larry Kilgallen
2008-02-22 20:47 ` Simon Wright
2008-02-22 21:27 ` Robert A Duff
2008-02-23 0:12 ` adaworks
2008-02-23 10:28 ` framefritti
2008-02-23 12:45 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-02-23 15:16 ` Robert A Duff
2008-02-23 16:47 ` adaworks
2008-02-23 18:47 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-24 7:40 ` adaworks
2008-02-24 9:42 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-24 20:41 ` adaworks
2008-02-25 2:37 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-25 7:06 ` adaworks
2008-02-25 13:12 ` Robert A Duff
2008-02-25 17:44 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-25 22:16 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-26 5:10 ` John W. Kennedy
2008-02-26 19:08 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-26 7:11 ` adaworks
2008-02-26 13:38 ` Stephen Leake
2008-02-26 14:56 ` adaworks [this message]
2008-02-26 19:15 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-26 19:13 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-26 21:25 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-27 1:15 ` Robert A Duff
2008-02-26 7:06 ` adaworks
2008-02-26 11:42 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2008-02-26 15:05 ` adaworks
2008-02-26 15:15 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2008-02-24 17:26 ` Robert A Duff
2008-02-23 20:46 ` Robert A Duff
2008-02-24 7:31 ` adaworks
2008-02-24 17:20 ` Robert A Duff
2008-02-24 20:33 ` adaworks
2008-02-25 1:07 ` Robert A Duff
2008-02-26 7:29 ` adaworks
2008-02-26 19:22 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-27 1:58 ` adaworks
2008-02-27 20:34 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-27 22:31 ` Robert A Duff
2008-02-27 23:35 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-28 0:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2008-02-28 9:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-02-29 5:57 ` adaworks
2008-02-29 6:04 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-29 10:48 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2008-02-29 17:05 ` adaworks
2008-02-29 18:33 ` Ray Blaak
2008-02-29 6:10 ` adaworks
2008-02-22 22:16 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-02-23 13:44 ` Brian Drummond
2008-02-23 17:19 ` adaworks
2008-02-25 7:53 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
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