From: jsa@alexandria.organon.com (Jon S Anthony)
Subject: Re: An interesting quote on Java and C++
Date: 1997/09/12
Date: 1997-09-12T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <JSA.97Sep11205425@alexandria.organon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.873989964@merv
Robert sez,
> be careful not to compare the reality of Ada with the Sun (and
> other) hype on Java. In the current state of things, Java is nowhere
> NEAR as portable as Ada, it is almost the normal case that an applet
> of any complexity written on one platform is likely not to work on
> another platform.
In our experience, this is putting the situation quite generously.
The stuff doesn't even work across releases or other JVMs on the
_same_ platform.
> Of course you can say, well that's because the implementations are
> decrepit, just wait and see, but then we are back to talking about
> implementatins and not languages.
Right (or at least I'm still willing to give them the benefit of the
doubt on this one for a while longer...)
> As for security, this is a matter of implementation, not the language.
> Indeed, there are all kinds of Java restrictions that must be adhered
> to for secure applet delivery that are not enforced by Java itself.
> And of coruse if you use an Ada->JVM system, then by definition this
> has the same level of security, since the security is implemented at
> the JVM level, not at the Java level.
Agreed.
/Jon
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Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1997-09-03 0:00 An interesting quote on Java and C++ Nasser
1997-09-03 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
[not found] ` <01bcb881$915526a0$d7000064@sim01.amst.co.at>
1997-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Munck
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Joachim Schroeer
1997-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-24 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-09-08 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-09-09 0:00 ` Robert Munck
1997-09-10 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-09-10 0:00 ` Robert Munck
1997-09-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-12 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony [this message]
1997-09-12 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-09-18 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-09-19 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-09-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-10-03 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-09-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-22 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-09-10 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1997-09-11 0:00 ` Roy Grimm
1997-09-12 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-09-12 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-12 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-12 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
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1997-09-25 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-09-25 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-09-26 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1997-10-07 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-11-19 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-10-08 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-10-09 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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