From: jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony)
Subject: Re: Reading a line of arbitrary length
Date: 1997/03/05
Date: 1997-03-05T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <JSA.97Mar5181413@alexandria> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 33032AE2.666F@mds.lmco.com
In article <1997Mar5.102140.1@eisner> kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen) writes:
> In article <JSA.97Mar4154951@alexandria>, jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony) writes:
> > In article <dewar.857447653@merv> dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:
> >
> >> Jon said
> >>
> >> <<Because there are areas and cases where the GC should not be simply
> >> "transparent". That it should have some explicit programmer control
> >> available.>>
> >>
> >> Well there is a contentions statement. I strongly disagree that GC
> >> should not be simply transparent, and I do not like the idea of
> >> standardizing explicit programmer control, whatever that might be.
> >
> > Yes, it is. These are merely points that have been made in GC
> > circles. I'm not _advocating_ them, just trying to point out various
> > reason why a "defined standard minimal interface" may be needed.
>
> It seems to me that by omission the Ada 95 (or 83, for that matter)
> reference manual establishes that the "defined standard minimal interface"
> is one without programmer control or API. Anything on top of that is
> implementation-specific.
>
> To specify anything further with no confirmed sightings of potential
> implementors would give the impression that standards committees are
> paid by the word.
Ah. I see. The old "let's not learn anything from those who've done
it in similar languages and certainly let's not pay any attention to
GC folk". Hasn't this sort of thing already been done a few times?
Hmmm, maybe this is why Robert thinks Ada GC is doomed...
/Jon
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Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1997-02-12 0:00 Reading a line of arbitrary length Thomas Koenig
1997-02-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-02-12 0:00 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1997-02-13 0:00 ` Jeff Carter
1997-02-13 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1997-02-13 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1997-02-13 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-02-13 0:00 ` Rex Reges
1997-02-15 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-02-19 0:00 ` Jean-Etienne Doucet
1997-02-21 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1997-02-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-02-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-02-13 0:00 ` Rex Reges
[not found] ` <dewar.855848896@merv>
[not found] ` <dsmith-1302971702290001@dsmith.clark.net>
[not found] ` <33047186.463F@mds.lmco.com>
1997-02-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-02-14 0:00 ` Mats Weber
[not found] ` <33037A74.44AF@mds.lmco.com>
1997-02-14 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1997-02-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-02-17 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1997-02-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <dewar.855929857@merv>
1997-02-14 0:00 ` Rex Reges
1997-02-14 0:00 ` Gene Ouye
1997-02-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-02-15 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-02-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-02-16 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-02-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-02-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-02-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-02-22 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-02-21 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-02-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-02-22 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-02-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-02-25 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-02-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-02-27 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-03 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-03-03 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-03 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-03 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-03 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-03 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Thomas Koenig
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <dewar.857447653@m <JSA.97Mar4154951@alexandria>
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Really more GC talk (was: Reading a line of arbitrary length) Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Reading a line of arbitrary length Jon S Anthony
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony [this message]
1997-02-16 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-02-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-02-16 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-02-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-02-25 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
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