From: jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony)
Subject: Re: CRC in Ada?
Date: 1997/03/17
Date: 1997-03-17T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <JSA.97Mar17133354@alexandria> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1997Mar5.131846.1@eisner
In article <dewar.858439200@merv> dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:
> Jon said
>
> <<It is even worse than you suggest for arrays "in general". They could
> be composed of elements whose type is user defined and which have
> their own specialized 'Read and 'Write. There's no way to handle this
> sort of thing in general except to just call the things element by
> element.>.
>
> Well of course, but the compiler knows perfectly well when this is the case,
Well, of course I agree with this - it's the reason I suggested the
"as if" optimization in the first place.
> On the other hand, this does not stand in the way at all from optimizaing
> certain cases where the user has NOT specialized things this way.
Absolutely. And that is why I suggested it.
> Of course, as always, the existence of the general case tends to mean that
> the optimized case gets put aside (consider the influence on Fortran
> compilers of the fact that format strings *may* be dynamic -- for a long
> time the result was that Fortran runtimes treated all format strings as
Agreed. Picking certain "strategic" special cases to optimize can
work near miracles in practice!
/Jon
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1997-03-02 0:00 CRC in Ada? Dr. John B. Matthews
1997-03-03 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-03-03 0:00 ` David Brown
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Stephen Garriga
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Stephen Garriga
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Stephen Garriga
1997-03-15 0:00 ` Michael & Amy Hartsough
1997-03-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-16 0:00 ` Michael & Amy Hartsough
1997-03-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-18 0:00 ` Michael & Amy Hartsough
1997-03-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-20 0:00 ` Michael & Amy Hartsough
1997-03-22 0:00 ` Mark & Zurima McKinney
1997-03-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-24 0:00 ` Sequential IO on OpenVMS (was: CRC in Ada?) Ken Garlington
1997-03-24 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-21 0:00 ` CRC in Ada? Tom Moran
1997-03-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-23 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-03-24 0:00 ` Portable Code (was: CRC in Ada?) Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-24 0:00 ` CRC in Ada? Robert A Duff
1997-03-24 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-24 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-24 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-25 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-04-01 0:00 ` David Emery
1997-03-07 0:00 ` John Apa
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-04 0:00 ` David L Brown
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Stephen Garriga
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-09 0:00 ` Dr. John B. Matthews
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Tom Moran
[not found] ` <1997Mar7.202252.1@eisner>
1997-03-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-09 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Dr. John B. Matthews
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` David Brown
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Tarjei Jensen
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Graham Hughes
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Graham Hughes
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Mark & Zurima McKinney
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-15 0:00 ` Dr. John B. Matthews
1997-03-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-17 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony [this message]
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-08 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-09 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Graham Hughes
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-08 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-03-07 0:00 ` David Brown
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Laurent Pautet
1997-03-05 0:00 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
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2013-11-14 18:55 ` Adam Beneschan
2013-11-14 19:35 ` tmoran
2013-11-14 20:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-11-14 20:40 ` John B. Matthews
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1997-03-13 0:00 tmoran
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Joakim Olsson
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-03-15 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
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