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From: jsa@alexandria.organon.com (Jon S Anthony)
Subject: Re: Off topic response to an off topic message--> was:Re: Software Engineering and Dreamers
Date: 1997/06/05
Date: 1997-06-05T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <JSA.97Jun5140136@alexandria.organon.com> (raw)


In article <5n45ou$cio@squire.cen.brad.ac.uk> cgrussel@bradford.ac.uk (Vibrating Bum-Faced Goats) writes:

> What I'm trying to say here is that it could be argued (by me amongst 
> others) that the relationships between objects and phenomena exist 
> anyway. Mathematics is the ongoing creation of a extraordinarily rich and 
> diverse language which enables us to express those relationships. A 
> mathematician is creating a tool for scientists and engineers alike. It 
> may require a mathematician to make use of that tool at times but, at 
> it's very core, tool creation is what I believe to be the essence of maths.

Spoken like an engineer.  I don't think many scientists would actually
say this sort of thing.

Go read G.H.Hardy's _A Mathematician's Apology_.  Considering that (in
my experience anyway), the (vast) majority of mathematicians hold
basically the views expressed there, you will immediately see what a
"hornet's nest" you have just kicked.


> I don't see it as being different from any other language in that it 

You're still kicking...


> Distant unknown planets do not crash into their sun because no one there 
> has *discovered* the inverse square law. That relationship continues 
> to exist in a form unexpressable to the local inhabitants. 

So - how do you feel about the "Copenhagen interpretation" of QM?
Bohr's notion of "complimentarity"?  Just curious...


/Jon
-- 
Jon Anthony
Organon Motives, Inc.
Belmont, MA 02178
617.484.3383
jsa@organon.com





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1997-06-05  0:00 Jon S Anthony [this message]
1997-06-06  0:00 ` Off topic response to an off topic message--> was:Re: Software Engineering and Dreamers H. Blakely Williford
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1997-05-15  0:00 Any research putting c above ada? Jon S Anthony
1997-05-23  0:00 ` Software Engineering and Dreamers Robert I. Eachus
1997-05-23  0:00   ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-26  0:00     ` Fritz W Feuerbacher
1997-05-26  0:00       ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-30  0:00         ` Vibrating Bum-Faced Goats
1997-06-02  0:00           ` Jon S Anthony
     [not found]             ` <01bc7042$609289e0$cb61e426@DCorbit.solutionsiq.com>
1997-06-03  0:00               ` Off topic response to an off topic message--> was:Re: " H. Blakely Williford
1997-06-04  0:00                 ` Craig Franck
1997-06-03  0:00                   ` Spaceman Spiff
1997-06-09  0:00                     ` Ceri Stagg
1997-06-12  0:00                       ` Philip Brashear
1997-07-21  0:00                         ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-06-09  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-09  0:00                     ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-06-10  0:00                   ` Vibrating Bum-Faced Goats
1997-06-04  0:00               ` Vibrating Bum-Faced Goats
1997-06-04  0:00                 ` �Stephen!
1997-06-05  0:00                   ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-06-06  0:00                     ` Volker Hetzer
     [not found]                 ` <01bc7a5b$9ccdd900$21320f9b@mindlin>
     [not found]                   ` <5o7ahj$oos$1@news12.gte.net>
1997-06-18  0:00                     ` Philip Hindman
1997-06-18  0:00                     ` Spam Hater
1997-06-18  0:00                       ` Spaceman Spiff
1997-06-19  0:00                         ` Stephan Wilms
1997-06-20  0:00                         ` Spam Hater
1997-06-19  0:00                       ` Mukesh Prasad
1997-06-19  0:00                     ` Craig Franck
1997-06-18  0:00                       ` Spaceman Spiff
1997-06-19  0:00                         ` Steve Howard
1997-06-19  0:00                           ` Anonymous
1997-06-20  0:00                         ` Spam Hater
1997-06-21  0:00                           ` Spaceman Spiff
1997-06-23  0:00                           ` root
1997-06-22  0:00                         ` Alicia Carla Longstreet
1997-06-19  0:00                       ` Stephan Wilms
1997-06-24  0:00                       ` David Thornley
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