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From: jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony)
Subject: Re: Ada and Mac (Was: New version of AppletMagic)
Date: 1996/10/14
Date: 1996-10-14T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <JSA.96Oct14175838@alexandria> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mheaney-ya023180000610961022420001@news.ni.net


In article <53mdal$6t8@felix.seas.gwu.edu> mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman) writes:

> Jon S Anthony <jsa@alexandria> wrote:
> 
> >And that's just fine.  What would seem like the more sensible road
> >here would be to put together a Thomson style deal (where ObjectAda
> >uses the AdaMagic frontend, but Thomson BE, IDE, etc).  This has
> >produced one of the (maybe _the_) most impressive Ada offering to
> >date.  Question is, who is the Thomson equivalent for the Mac in such
> >a scenario???
> 
> There is none; that is the problem. Thomson is an "Ada company."
> The Ada companies (Thomson, Rational, Intermetrics) look at the Mac 
> and say "nah, small market." 
> [....]
> The Mac companies (Symantec, MetroWerks) look at Ada and say
> "nah, small market." And therein lies the deadly embrace.

Sounds like an opportunity for a new company which sees the
possibilities of both sides.


> Part of the intent of the Academic Ada contract was to break the
> deadlock by using some government dollars to seed the development of 
> a proprietary, commercialized, Ada 95 compiler for the Mac (and for 
> Win 95, but that's not at issue here). Intermetrics won the contract,
> but then (apparently) looked at the Mac and said "nah, small market,"
> got the government to agree to a contract mod, and walked away from
> the Mac. 

And that is just fine.  I don't see where the contract was: "Ada on
the Mac".


> Something will have to happen to dispel the perception on both sides
> that this is not a worthwhile market to enter. I happen to think the

It's either a correct perception or it is not.  If it is, then I
suppose things will never change.  If not, then it would seem that
this is indeed an opportunity for a new company which would take the
AdaMagic front end and someone elses backend and add the value added
to glue them together in a nice Mac environment.

/Jon
-- 
Jon Anthony
Organon Motives, Inc.
Belmont, MA 02178
617.484.3383
jsa@organon.com





  parent reply	other threads:[~1996-10-14  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-09-27  0:00 Ada to byte-code compiler works as advertised Mike Stark
1996-09-28  0:00 ` Ray Blaak
1996-09-28  0:00   ` Mike Stark
1996-09-30  0:00 ` Vince Del Vecchio
1996-10-03  0:00 ` New version of AppletMagic (was Re: Ada to byte-code compiler ...) Vince Del Vecchio
1996-10-04  0:00   ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-05  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1996-10-06  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-06  0:00       ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Michael Feldman
1996-10-07  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-07  0:00           ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-07  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09  0:00               ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-10-09  0:00               ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08  0:00           ` Hosting Ada on Mac (Was: Ada on the Mac) Laurent Gasser
1996-10-09  0:00             ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08  0:00           ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Robert Dewar
1996-10-08  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09  0:00               ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-09  0:00             ` jim hopper
1996-10-08  0:00       ` Ada and Mac (Was: New version of AppletMagic) Stan Shebs
1996-10-08  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-10  0:00         ` jim hopper
1996-10-08  0:00       ` Laurent Gasser
1996-10-08  0:00         ` jim hopper
1996-10-08  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09  0:00             ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-09  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-11  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-11  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-10  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09  0:00           ` Laurent Gasser
1996-10-09  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-15  0:00         ` Tucker Taft
1996-10-10  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-10  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-11  0:00         ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-14  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony [this message]
1996-10-16  0:00         ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-17  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-17  0:00             ` jim hopper
1996-10-17  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-21  0:00                   ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-21  0:00                     ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-22  0:00                       ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-23  0:00                       ` Steve Wall
1996-10-22  0:00                     ` Tom Halliley
1996-10-23  0:00                       ` Jim Easterbrook
1996-10-23  0:00                       ` Anita Holmgren
1996-10-24  0:00                         ` Tom Halliley
1996-10-17  0:00             ` jim hopper
1996-10-21  0:00             ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-17  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-21  0:00         ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08  0:00     ` New version of AppletMagic (was Re: Ada to byte-code compiler Dr Paul Gorman
1996-10-09  0:00 ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Stan Shebs
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