From: jsa@organon.com (Jon S Anthony)
Subject: Re: Real OO (was Choice of OO primitives in Ada95)
Date: 1996/02/22
Date: 1996-02-22T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <JSA.96Feb22181347@organon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Dn5qGH.9xH@assip.csasyd.oz
In article <dewar.824966245@schonberg> dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:
> Don says
>
> "Note that Ada only fully satisfies 2) and has a sub-optimal mechanism for 1)."
>
> Well that's no more than an opinion, you provide no objective criterion to
> justify this opinion. In fact I think that Ada 95 satisfies 1) more
> convincingly than Eiffel. This has been discussed many times on this news
> group, and I don't particularly have anything to add to those previous
> discussions, I think it has all been said before!
>
> The value of executable assertions has been hotly debated. To regard them
> as an essential part of OO programming seems odd to me, but of course
> people are free to say "x is essential for OO in my view" for almost
> any X (and all sorts of x's have been suggested). One trouble with
> executable assertions is that they are at the wrong level of abstraction,
> since they are confined to be at the semantic level of the language, and
> generally you want to talk about abstractions at a higher level.
Yes, Don says a lot of things. He also says the following in
c.l.e:
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From: donh@syd.csa.com.au (Don Harrison)
Subject: Real OO
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For anyone interested, I've just stirred up the Ada nest with a posting
titled 'Real OO'.
I didn't cross post it to here, for fear of boring you all with endless
follow-ups.
Regards,
Don.
>>>
Basically, he's just trolling. So, it is best to not waste time
replying to anything he posts.
/Jon
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1996-02-19 0:00 ` Choice of OO primitives in Ada95 Don Harrison
1996-02-19 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-20 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-02-20 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-02-22 0:00 ` Real OO (was Choice of OO primitives in Ada95) Don Harrison
1996-02-22 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony [this message]
1996-02-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-23 0:00 ` Gene Ouye
1996-02-26 0:00 ` James O'Connor
1996-02-26 0:00 ` Gene Ouye
1996-02-24 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-26 0:00 ` Matthew B. Kennel
1996-02-26 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-02-24 0:00 ` Valery Croizier
1996-02-26 0:00 ` So called Real OO (was blah blah blah...) Jon S Anthony
1996-02-20 0:00 ` Choice of OO primitives in Ada95 Ray Toal
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-02-23 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-22 0:00 ` Bernd Holzmueller
1996-02-23 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-23 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-19 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-02-21 0:00 ` John DiCamillo
1996-02-22 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-02-24 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-22 0:00 Real OO (was Choice of OO primitives in Ada95) Jean-Pierre Rosen
1996-02-22 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
1996-02-23 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-22 0:00 ` Valery Croizier
1996-02-24 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-22 0:00 ` Spencer Allain
1996-02-23 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
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1996-03-15 0:00 ` Don Harrison
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1996-03-15 0:00 ` Don Harrison
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