From: jsa@organon.com (Jon S Anthony)
Subject: Re: Real OO
Date: 1996/04/12
Date: 1996-04-12T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <JSA.96Apr12172019@organon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Dpq3pF.5sr@assip.csasyd.oz
In article <Dpq3pF.5sr@assip.csasyd.oz> donh@syd.csa.com.au (Don Harrison) writes:
> Yes, I confess my knowledge of OO languages is fairly narrow. I
> guess I'm very
Yes. It shows.
> selective about which I bother looking into especially when I know how well
> designed Eiffel is. Some claim that Sather is good and I would like to know
> more about it but, from my understanding, it has no assertions and has (or is
> about to have) a separate module mechanism. If this is true, it seems likely
> the designers have missed the importance of assertions and uni-encapsulation
> in an OO model.
Nah. They just know a _whole_ lot more about this stuff than you.
Sadly, given your self proclaimed narrow mindedness, they probably
know more than you could even hope to know. BTW, your understanding
is wrong - Sather has per method pre and post conditions, class wide
invariants, and the assert statement.
> community to acknowledge that these elements are important. The pure
> and simple fact is that they have missed it and he has got it right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We already know you are closed minded dogmatic
evangelist. Meyer indeed has a lot of "right" things to say. This is
not the same as saying that everything he says is right. So the pure
and simple fact is, you are in the weeds.
> Yes, I am narrow minded but have good cause to be!
Pssst, this is an oxymoron.
/Jon
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1996-03-18 0:00 ` Real OO Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-18 0:00 ` The Right Reverend Colin James III
1996-03-19 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-20 0:00 ` Norman Cohen giving IBM a bad name The Right Reverend Colin James III
1996-03-20 0:00 ` Dave Retherford
1996-03-20 0:00 ` Real OO Dale Stanbrough
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Richard Pitre
1996-03-20 0:00 ` Colin James III giving humans a bad name (was Re: Norman Cohen giving IBM a bad name) David Emery
1996-03-20 0:00 ` Mark R Okern - F95
1996-03-20 0:00 ` Real OO John G. Volan
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Scott Leschke
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-22 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Colin James III giving humans a bad name (was Re: Norman Cohen giving IBM a bad name) Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-20 0:00 ` Norman Cohen giving IBM a bad name Brian & Karen Bell
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Kent Mitchell
1996-03-22 0:00 ` Robert Munck
1996-03-22 0:00 ` Mark Brennan
1996-03-22 0:00 ` David Curry
1996-03-23 0:00 ` Tom Reid
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Real OO Don Harrison
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Colin James III giving humans a bad name (was Re: Norman Cohen giving IBM a bad name) Ulrich Windl
1996-03-20 0:00 ` Real OO Don Harrison
1996-03-22 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-03-22 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-27 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-03-27 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-28 0:00 ` Jacob Gore
1996-04-04 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-04-04 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
1996-04-04 0:00 ` Robb Nebbe
1996-04-04 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-04-04 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-04-12 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-04-12 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-04-15 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-04-19 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-04-19 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
1996-04-20 0:00 ` Bob Hathaway
1996-04-23 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-04-04 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-03-22 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-26 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-03-26 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-03-27 0:00 ` Thomas Beale
1996-03-28 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-03-23 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-03-26 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-04-04 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-04-04 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-04-12 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-04-17 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-04-19 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-04-19 0:00 ` Multiple Dispatch in Ada 95 (Was Re: Real OO) Robert I. Eachus
1996-04-19 0:00 ` Real OO Jon S Anthony
1996-04-23 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-04-24 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-04-29 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Amit Patel
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-05-07 0:00 ` Amit Patel
1996-05-01 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-05-01 0:00 ` Colin James III (The Rt Rev'd)
1996-05-07 0:00 ` Amit Patel
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Amit Patel
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-05-01 0:00 ` Richard Bielak
1996-05-01 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1996-05-02 0:00 ` Ell
1996-05-01 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-01 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-02 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-05-03 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-05-06 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-06 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-05-06 0:00 ` Robb Nebbe
1996-05-01 0:00 ` David Hopwood
1996-05-03 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-02 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-05-03 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-10 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-01 0:00 ` AdaWorks
1996-05-08 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-05-03 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-03 0:00 ` Dave Fitch
1996-05-07 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-05-01 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
1996-05-03 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-02 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-02 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-05-02 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-05-03 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-06 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-05-06 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-05-06 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-06 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-07 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-05-13 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-09 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-04-19 0:00 ` Multiple Dispatch in Ada 95 (Was Re: Real OO) Brian Rogoff
1996-04-21 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1996-04-20 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1996-04-21 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-24 0:00 ` Real OO Joachim Durchholz
1996-05-01 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
1996-05-02 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-07 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-05-08 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-05-09 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-05-03 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-07 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-05-08 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-05-10 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-05-02 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-05-06 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-04-08 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-04-08 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-09 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-04-10 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-04-11 0:00 ` Jacob Gore
1996-04-12 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-04-12 0:00 ` Jacob Gore
1996-04-16 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-04-12 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-04-12 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony [this message]
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1996-05-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-05-06 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-05-07 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-07 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-05-08 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-08 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
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1996-05-10 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
1996-05-10 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-05-14 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
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1996-05-07 0:00 ` Ada terminology (was Re: Real OO) David Hopwood
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1996-05-07 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-05-07 0:00 ` The Right Reverend Colin James III
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1996-05-07 0:00 ` Real OO Amit Patel
1996-05-07 0:00 ` The Right Reverend Colin James III
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1996-05-18 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
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1996-05-14 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-05-15 0:00 ` Alexander Kjeldaas
1996-05-15 0:00 ` Steve Tynor
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1996-05-09 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-05-09 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-05-09 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-04-02 0:00 ` Detecting type mismatch at compile time (was Re: Real OO) Robert I. Eachus
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1996-04-09 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
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