From: Karel Miklav <karel@inetis.spppambait.com>
Subject: Re: incomplete languages
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:35:21 +0100
Date: 2003-01-08T15:35:21+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <JGWS9.2541$tQ1.127049@news.siol.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <avh7vn$fni6s$1@ID-77047.news.dfncis.de>
Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> Alexandre E. Kopilovitch wrote:
>>"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
>>>A need in a meta language indicates that the core language is incomplete.
>>>Then the question is only whether this incompleteness is inherent or not.
>>>As long as the former is not proved I will claim that we do not need a
>>>meta language.
>>
>>But it is well-known fact (from the first half of 20 century, thanks
>>Godel), that every language that is rich enough is necessarily incomplete.
>
> Incomplete for what? If a language should be complete for everything, then
> meta language is also no answer, because it in turn will be also
> incomplete.
I have this problem: I'm designing an object database, objects are
directly stored in it. There's no need for SQL as I can load objects
from disk and check them, update them etc in native language. All is
good and well, until I move my database on a remote computer. Then, how
am I supposed to do queries? My database (object store actualy) is dumb,
downloading a whole database contents for each query is not a solution,
so I have to export logic to the remote database server. This logic can
be written in Ada like syntax, but clearly not in Ada, the language.
So; Ada can be compiled, but compiled objects cannot be remotely
exported. My thoughts went in a direction of meta language or meta
platform, as it looks like averybody else's. But since David looks so
shure there must be some other way to export logic remotely (I mean
without double coding and/or meta languages (while we're here: what is
Ada, a language or a platform?))?
Regards, Karel Miklav
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Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-01-07 16:01 incomplete languages (was: Re: Anybody in US using ADA ? One silly idea..) Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
2003-01-08 13:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-08 14:35 ` Karel Miklav [this message]
2003-01-10 13:49 ` incomplete languages Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-14 1:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-01-14 2:20 ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-14 7:33 ` Karel Miklav
2003-01-14 8:49 ` tmoran
2003-01-14 9:03 ` Karel Miklav
2003-01-08 22:00 ` incomplete languages (was: Re: Anybody in US using ADA ? One silly idea..) Ted Dennison
2003-01-09 6:35 ` Karel Miklav
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2003-01-08 21:16 incomplete languages Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
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