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From: anon@anon.org (anon)
Subject: Re: TIOBE Programming Community Index for November 2007
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:00:41 GMT
Date: 2007-11-05T16:00:41+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <J6HXi.335587$ax1.292522@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 472f20aa$1@news.post.ch

>Or - more likely - a programmer will approach a manager with the claim
>"Look Ruby is in the 10 ten of the TIOBE index. Ruby is a top ten
>language. Ruby would be good for us. :-) :-)"

A programmer suggestion how thing should be managed.  That like saying 
that a initial programmer job start at $100_000 per year.  We all know 
that's not true. The top of the pay scale last year was reportedly, the 
email specialist at $75_000 for at least 5 years experience, in the US.

Plus, since "google" has not compiled with the US government request to 
give them information of what porn site were searched, what makes you 
think they would give any information to TIOBE. And since then other 
search engines have decide to become private with their data as well. So, 
can we trust that TIOBE is actually getting valid data or reporting the 
valid data.




In <472f20aa$1@news.post.ch>, Martin Krischik <krischik@users.sourceforge.net> writes:
>anon schrieb:
>
>> Plus, most job hunting programmers do not use the keys "Ada
>> programming" or "Ada jobs".
>
>TIOBE does not only go for job seeker but also for managers who consider
>the programming language for a new project.
>
>Or - more likely - a programmer will approach a manager with the claim
>"Look Ruby is in the 10 ten of the TIOBE index. Ruby is a top ten
>language. Ruby would be good for us. :-) :-)"
>
>Or - horror scenario - "Look Ada dropped of the top 20 at TIOBE - it's
>old fashioned - no body uses it any more - we should not be using it".
>
>Dropping off the top 20 will give Ada basher another angle to attack.
>
>> So, the hit counter is not a perfect list as TIOBE would like you to 
>> believe.
>
>I know that. But many don't.
>
>Besides: TIOBE does not measure actually used search pattern but the
>result to one example pattern which they made up and consider useful.
>
>If we find it useful or not does not matter - they find it useful. So we
>should consider tweaking our Web-Sides so they will match there pattern.
>
>We would not be the first.
>
>Martin
>-- 
>mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net
>Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com




  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-05 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-04 17:56 TIOBE Programming Community Index for November 2007 Martin Krischik
2007-11-04 19:08 ` j.khaldi
2007-11-04 21:27   ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-11-04 21:09 ` Markus E L
2007-11-05  9:19   ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-05 10:24     ` Markus E L
2007-11-06 20:20     ` Gautier
2007-11-05  1:10 ` anon
2007-11-05  7:27   ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-05  8:54     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-11-05  9:35       ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-05 11:07         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-11-05 19:46         ` Manuel Gomez
2007-11-05 10:11       ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-11-05 11:07         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-11-05  9:34     ` Stephen Leake
2007-11-05 10:05       ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-06 10:21         ` Stephen Leake
2007-11-06 17:38           ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-05 13:19     ` anon
2007-11-05 13:54       ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-05 16:00         ` anon [this message]
2007-11-05 16:10           ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-05  9:29 ` Stephen Leake
2007-11-05 10:16   ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-06 10:19     ` Stephen Leake
2007-11-06 10:56       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-11-06 17:25       ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-06 20:35 ` Simon Wright
2007-11-07 16:22   ` Martin Krischik
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