From: "Pat Rogers" <progers@classwide.com>
Subject: Re: memory leakages with Ada?
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 19:51:04 GMT
Date: 2002-03-16T19:51:04+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ImNk8.12198$Nd7.2963308722@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 00t69uso35hmunf5mpnfn37ggd9q59tctu@4ax.com
"DPH" <rally2xs@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 15:51:05 +0000 (UTC), Preben Randhol
> <randhol+abuse@pvv.org> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 09:56:41 -0500, DPH wrote:
> >>
> >> this goes back to a post I made last month. I'm just wondering if Ada
> >> is all that much less error prone when you start comparing it with C++
> >> development environments in the wildly popular platforms of Windows
> >> and Linux, but especially windows. There are just scads of tools to
> >> do about everything (except reliably find the memory leaks of C++,
> >> although there may be - and I just haven't run across it yet) and
> >> those tools are generally cheaper due to economy of scale.
> >
> >Ask yourself: Why do so many tools exist for C++?
>
> 'Cuz tthey're necessary.
>
> 'Cuz there's such a huge user base that they could make money on them
> even if they weren't necessary - they would still be convenient and
> therefore saleable.
>
> The question is - do they compensate enough for C++'s inherent
> tendancy to fool programmers into doing something ugly, coupled with
> the hoarde of people that know the language, to make them viable
> competiton for Ada in some limited programming environments like
> Windows and Unix/Linux? Can you get an equally reliable program from
> an experienced C++ prgrammer with sophisticated tools that you get
> from an experienced Ada programmer for which the same tools don't
> exist?
Not sure that works, though, for two reasons:
1) The tools are built into the language for the Ada side, so for the
most part they do exist and are comparably priced nowadays,
2) The better question might be -- "At what price can these more or less
equally reliable programs be created?"
There is plenty of evidence that Ada is much more cost-effective than C for the
application domain Ada was designed for. Unfortunately I don't know of much
meaningful comparison data for Ada vs. C++. I know what my "gut" tells me,
but that isn't so useful in this context.
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2002-03-14 14:07 memory leakages with Ada? Calvin Ow
2002-03-14 14:31 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-03-14 20:42 ` Nick Roberts
2002-03-14 21:11 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-03-14 21:07 ` Anh_Vo
2002-03-14 20:12 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-15 9:37 ` John McCabe
2002-03-15 12:55 ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-16 4:36 ` Will
2002-03-16 4:53 ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-16 12:21 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-03-16 9:13 ` DPH
2002-03-16 14:38 ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-16 14:56 ` DPH
2002-03-16 15:51 ` Preben Randhol
2002-03-16 16:39 ` DPH
2002-03-16 19:51 ` Pat Rogers [this message]
2002-03-16 20:40 ` DPH
2002-03-17 19:31 ` Richard Riehle
2002-03-17 21:49 ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-17 22:02 ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-18 22:32 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-03-18 22:47 ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-18 7:22 ` Richard Riehle
2002-03-18 17:35 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-17 16:26 ` Steve Doiel
2002-03-16 20:18 ` Robert A Duff
2002-03-16 20:36 ` DPH
2002-03-15 14:20 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-18 17:54 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-03-18 19:54 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-18 20:34 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-03-18 21:18 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-18 21:45 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-03-20 1:19 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-20 17:06 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-03-20 17:56 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-03-20 17:48 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-22 0:25 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2002-03-22 5:10 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-18 22:18 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-20 20:49 ` Bertrand Augereau
2002-03-21 4:31 ` Will
2002-03-15 16:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-15 21:59 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-03-17 5:43 ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-17 7:22 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-03-18 4:09 ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-18 16:54 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-03-18 17:38 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-03-19 9:21 ` John McCabe
2002-03-19 17:11 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-03-19 17:16 ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-19 17:51 ` David C. Hoos
2002-03-19 18:20 ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-03-19 23:43 ` Mark Johnson
2002-03-20 15:09 ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-03-17 7:27 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-18 3:52 ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-18 5:37 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-15 17:41 ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-15 18:00 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-15 18:08 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-16 10:15 ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-14 23:14 ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-15 3:20 ` Steve Doiel
2002-03-15 9:32 ` John McCabe
2002-03-15 15:46 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-15 17:29 ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-15 15:48 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-03-16 3:05 ` Steve Doiel
2002-03-16 20:19 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-03-15 17:25 ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-15 18:03 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-16 10:07 ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-17 3:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-15 9:27 ` John McCabe
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2002-03-20 6:25 Christoph Grein
2002-03-20 16:35 ` Hyman Rosen
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