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From: Shark8 <OneWingedShark@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: is getting OpenGL to work with Ada a lost cause?
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:25:52 -0600
Date: 2014-08-18T19:25:52-06:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <HIxIv.397602$Ji3.23912@fx16.iad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <lstsdn$35p$1@speranza.aioe.org>

On 18-Aug-14 15:49, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote:
> What else would one use? a DOS batch file?


Ideally it would be part of the programming environment itself, handling 
dependencies ant the like essentially transparently; one of the reasons 
we're stuck using such crappy toolchains is because of the low-level 
view of the underlying system: an excellent example is source-files -- 
why would you want to have these stored *natively* as text? that's a 
/huge/ step down from storing it as some sort of datafile (eg an AST) 
with real rules/formats.

Make and the like tend to be terrible because of (a) stupid formats 
(e.g. make-file's tab, ANT's XML, etc), and (b) deep flaws in the design 
(e.g. GPR's project variables, ANT's XML, etc).

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Here's a good paper on GNU's Make's flaws:
http://www.conifersystems.com/whitepapers/gnu-make/


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-19  1:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-02 20:54 is getting OpenGL to work with Ada a lost cause? pincerfae
2014-08-03  9:35 ` jsquirek
2014-08-03  9:54   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-03 10:27     ` jsquirek
2014-08-03 11:56       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-03 12:40         ` jsquirek
2014-08-04 12:52           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-04 19:14             ` Björn Lundin
2014-08-03 16:46     ` Shark8
2014-08-04  1:38       ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-08-03 16:43   ` Shark8
2014-08-03 12:12 ` francois_fabien
2014-08-05 16:24 ` leonid.dulman
2014-08-13 23:23   ` pincerfae
2014-08-14  1:47     ` Shark8
2014-08-15 14:53       ` Stephen Leake
2014-08-15 16:50         ` Shark8
2014-08-15 13:28     ` jsquirek
2014-08-16 19:33       ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-08-16 22:13         ` pincerfae
2014-08-17 11:32           ` Luke A. Guest
2014-08-18 16:35             ` Shark8
2014-08-18 20:26               ` Luke A. Guest
2014-08-18 21:01                 ` Shark8
2014-08-18 21:44                   ` Luke A. Guest
2014-08-18 21:49                   ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-08-18 22:21                     ` Robert A Duff
2014-08-19  9:39                       ` Simon Wright
2014-08-19  1:25                     ` Shark8 [this message]
2014-08-19  9:45                       ` Simon Wright
2014-08-19 21:59                         ` Shark8
2014-08-20 20:09                         ` erlo
2014-08-19  7:42                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-19 11:36                     ` Björn Lundin
2014-08-25  5:27                     ` Tero Koskinen
2014-08-19  0:57           ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-08-19  1:29             ` Luke A. Guest
2014-08-24 22:35               ` pincerfae
2014-08-25  4:21                 ` jsquirek
2014-08-25 15:58                   ` Lucretia
2014-08-24 17:16 ` gdotone
2014-08-24 18:49   ` gautier_niouzes
2014-09-02 16:39 ` Quentin Ochem
2014-09-12  8:14   ` reinkor
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