From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)
Subject: Re: Ok sorry, it is just a book gives no feedback.
Date: 8 Jan 2001 07:57:23 -0500
Date: 2001-01-08T07:57:23-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <GYA4WaO3aNGQ@eisner.decus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Ph3xP601vQlt@eisner.decus.org
In article <3A59B1E1.A46DBE47@acm.org>, Marin David Condic <mcondic.nospam@acm.org> writes:
> Larry Kilgallen wrote:
>
>> Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. I detested it.
>> I think one of the great debugger advances has been to
>> use a small engine in the process being debugged and
>> put the great bulk of the debugger (GUI, etc.) into
>> another process where it will not impact addresses,
>> etc. (Of course that does not eliminate the heisenbug
>
> I am presuming that you are talking about having a relatively small chunk of code in an
> embedded app that will grab the contents of memory and send it down the wire upon request,
> etc.? The concept of an on-board monitor that will load & read memory, maintain lists of
> addresses to watch & report on periodically, etc. has been around for a while. They work very
> nicely - especially since they remain in the production code/box so that you can actually use
> them in the field if necessary. You don't need any special equipment besides the presence of
> a communication link.
Actually, my own concerns are more within a single general-purpose operating
system where one wants a full GUI debugger interface run by one process and
debugging another process.
My other application, closer to yours, is for debugging kernel code on a
general-purpose operating system with a separate system handling the GUI
for the debugger.
While the same approaches work for me as for you embedded folks, I post
this reply to emphasize the diversity of interests in the newsgroup.
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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-12-31 14:18 Ok sorry, it is just a book gives no feedback Mark Pagdin
2000-12-31 16:56 ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-31 16:57 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-01 11:03 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-01-02 9:23 ` Newsgroup cla (was: Ok sorry, it is just a book gives no feedback.) Anders Wirzenius
2001-01-02 10:44 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-02 13:21 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-02 12:45 ` Andrew Hately
2001-01-02 13:25 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-02 22:26 ` Ok sorry, it is just a book gives no feedback John English
2001-01-03 6:24 ` Nick Roberts
2001-01-04 13:14 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-04 15:49 ` n_brunot
2001-01-04 17:09 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-05 8:53 ` n_brunot
2001-01-05 13:45 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-05 21:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2001-01-06 4:05 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-06 17:11 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-06 20:26 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-06 22:40 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-07 1:12 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-07 4:19 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-07 17:12 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-08 12:26 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-08 12:57 ` Larry Kilgallen [this message]
2001-01-08 15:01 ` Stephen Leake
2001-01-08 15:58 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-09 21:13 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-01-06 19:46 ` Laurent Guerby
2001-01-06 20:36 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-07 13:09 ` Laurent Guerby
2001-01-07 15:56 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-07 16:25 ` Laurent Guerby
2001-01-07 15:58 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-07 17:19 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-06 7:13 ` Simon Wright
2001-01-07 16:00 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-07 17:16 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-04 17:11 ` Robert Dewar
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