From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Ada.Containers.Vectors - querying multiple elements
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:26:31 -0500
Date: 2005-04-29T15:26:31-05:00 [thread overview]
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"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
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> I wonder if introducing ranges as a type class could mend this. Provided a
> fictitious attribute Enum'Range (0) would return a null-length range, one
> could then create empty arrays without referencing to any concrete index
> bounds. But then Obj'First and Obj'Last could potentially raise
> Constraint_Error, which might appear unpleasant but perfectly consistent.
> Could there be a distributed overhead in the implementations of 'First and
> 'Last then?
Yes, there would be a distributed overhead. For Janus/Ada (the only compiler
for which I can speak definitively), in the general case array bounds are
stored in a descriptor record, along with a dimension length and a pointer
to the data. The dimension length is really redundant; I don't think most
compilers store it separately. In order to be able to represent an array as
you say, all compilers would have to store the dimension length and
presumably a bit mask to specify which bounds are invalid and raise C_E if
explicitly touched. And of course all references to 'First and 'Last would
have to check the bit mask. Not too expensive, but certainly a significant
change to compilers and some additional overhead.
Array indexing in the general case subtracts 'First from the calculated
value, so I don't think it would make sense to allow 'First to be an invalid
value - at least not unless the length of the array was 0 (in which case it
doesn't matter). But adding overhead to array indexing operations is not
going to win anyone friends. :-) More seriously, I think it would be a
non-starter.
You also have the problem of making the range check for any value when one
or the other bound could be invalid. More overhead in a particularly bad
spot.
So I don't think this idea is going to fly.
Randy.
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2005-04-26 11:43 Ada.Containers.Vectors - querying multiple elements Duncan Sands
2005-04-26 14:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-04-26 14:39 ` Duncan Sands
2005-04-26 15:44 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-04-26 16:05 ` Duncan Sands
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2005-04-26 16:59 ` Duncan Sands
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2005-04-26 17:08 ` Duncan Sands
2005-04-26 18:17 ` Martin Dowie
2005-04-26 18:48 ` Duncan Sands
2005-04-26 18:59 ` Duncan Sands
2005-04-26 19:05 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-04-26 20:34 ` Duncan Sands
2005-04-26 21:47 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-04-26 23:21 ` Marius Amado Alves
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2005-04-27 8:15 ` Duncan Sands
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2005-04-27 11:49 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-04-28 0:36 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-04-28 7:09 ` Duncan Sands
2005-04-27 11:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-04-27 11:57 ` Duncan Sands
2005-04-28 14:17 ` Duncan Sands
2005-04-27 4:59 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-04-27 7:21 ` Duncan Sands
2005-04-28 2:54 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-04-28 7:15 ` Duncan Sands
2005-04-28 12:27 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-04-28 13:18 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-04-28 13:53 ` Duncan Sands
2005-04-29 2:46 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-04-29 18:22 ` Robert A Duff
2005-04-28 7:18 ` Duncan Sands
2005-04-28 0:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-04-28 3:09 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-04-28 20:55 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-04-29 2:54 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-04-29 18:34 ` Robert A Duff
2005-04-29 20:18 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-04-29 20:00 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-04-30 4:06 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-04-29 7:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-04-29 20:26 ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2005-04-30 9:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-05-02 3:21 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-05-02 17:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-05-02 18:57 ` Robert A Duff
2005-05-03 8:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-05-03 23:30 ` Robert A Duff
2005-05-05 10:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-05-07 1:20 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-05-07 7:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2005-04-26 16:00 ` Duncan Sands
2005-04-28 0:54 ` Randy Brukardt
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