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From: nickerson@pundit.ds.boeing.com ()
Subject: Re: OS Bindings (was: Where is the elusive jump command?)
Date: 2000/04/08
Date: 2000-04-08T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <FsprE4.H0K@news.boeing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8cilej$bfc$1@nnrp1.deja.com


In article <8cilej$bfc$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com> writes:
|>In article <2000Apr6.101035.1@eisner>,
|>  kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen) wrote:
|>> Certainly not, but I would expect vendors of any software
|>> product on an operating system would have to conform to
|>> expectations of those who use the operating system in order to
|>> have any success. In the case of compilers, this means
|>> bindings.
|>
|>I certainly see why you might think this, coming from a DEC Ada
|>environment on VMS, where people have always been happy to
|>heavily contaminate (from a portability point of view) their
|>programs with starlet stuff.

??? contaminate - that's provocative; in my area we usuallly chose
isolation of OS calls rather than purported "portable" things like
POSIX; historically for us that even included the ubiquitous C RTL;
this gives rise to a system that has but 1 malloc/calloc, 1 fopen,
1 strcpy, etc etc etc ...; this (arguable) philosophy gives a solid 
path to portablity;

|>But in our experience, most people want to *minimize* direct
|>operating system connections that tie their programs to a
|>particular operating system. For example, they would rather
|>use the Posix interface than make direct calls to unix service
|>routines, or use GtkAda rather than make direct calls to
|>Win32 services on NT.

obviously agree on "minimize direct operating system" calls; am 
not familiar with GtkAda but believe it's not part of GNAT; does 
GtkAda support VMS and how long has it been around;

--bn (Bart Nickerson)
nickerson@pundit.ds.boeing.com
(206) 662-0183




  reply	other threads:[~2000-04-08  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-03-21  0:00 Where is the elusive jump command? dis90072
2000-03-21  0:00 ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-03-21  0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-03-21  0:00 ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-03-27  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-28  0:00   ` Ken Garlington
2000-03-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-28  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
2000-03-28  0:00         ` Marin D. Condic
2000-03-28  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-29  0:00             ` Richard D Riehle
2000-03-29  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-30  0:00                 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-04-01  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-02  0:00                     ` Richard D Riehle
2000-04-02  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-02  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-02  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-30  0:00                 ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-04-01  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-04  0:00                     ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-04-05  0:00                     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-04-05  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-04-06  0:00                         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-04-06  0:00                           ` OS Bindings (was: Where is the elusive jump command?) Larry Kilgallen
2000-04-06  0:00                             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-04-06  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-07  0:00                               ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-09  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-10  0:00                                   ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-12  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-12  0:00                                       ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-12  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-13  0:00                                           ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-15  0:00                                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00                                               ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-12  0:00                                       ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-12  0:00                                         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-12  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-12  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-12  0:00                                           ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-12  0:00                                             ` Florian Weimer
2000-04-12  0:00                                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-12  0:00                                               ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-15  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00                                                   ` Gisle S�lensminde
2000-04-13  0:00                                               ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-13  0:00                                                 ` Gisle S�lensminde
2000-04-13  0:00                                             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-13  0:00                                               ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-18  0:00                                                 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-15  0:00                                               ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00                                                 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
     [not found]                             ` <eisner comp.lang.ada:53670>
2000-04-06  0:00                               ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-04-06  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-08  0:00                                   ` nickerson [this message]
2000-04-09  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-29  0:00             ` Where is the elusive jump command? Marin D. Condic
2000-03-29  0:00               ` Gary Scott
2000-03-29  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-30  0:00                   ` Gautier
2000-03-30  0:00                     ` Gary Scott
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` Gautier
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` David Starner
2000-03-30  0:00                         ` William B. Clodius
2000-03-30  0:00                   ` David Starner
2000-03-30  0:00                     ` Marin D. Condic
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` Dan Nagle
2000-03-30  0:00                         ` David Starner
2000-03-30  0:00                         ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-03-31  0:00                           ` Gisle S�lensminde
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` Gary Scott
2000-03-31  0:00                         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-03-31  0:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-03-31  0:00                             ` Gary Scott
2000-03-31  0:00                       ` Gautier
2000-03-31  0:00                       ` Gisle S�lensminde
2000-03-31  0:00                       ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-12  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-12  0:00                           ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-04-12  0:00                             ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-04-13  0:00                               ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-04-14  0:00                                 ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-04-14  0:00                                   ` BASIC->Ada, was " tmoran
2000-04-15  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-13  0:00                           ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-03-30  0:00                   ` Gary Scott
2000-03-30  0:00               ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-03-28  0:00   ` Dale Stanbrough
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