From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Ada used in General Aviation (GA) applications?
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 14:20:30 -0500
Date: 2004-05-13T14:20:30-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <FoadncQeqoDnVz7dRVn-sQ@megapath.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 40A35FF6.9050703@noplace.com
"Marin David Condic" <nobody@noplace.com> wrote in message
news:40A35FF6.9050703@noplace.com...
> Lots of people here seem to lack much understanding of or sympathy for
> "Time To Market" - perhaps because they come from industries where this
> is not a big pressure. But you're right - in lots of business sectors
> (the ones that generate money for compiler vendors) time to market is
> *everything*. All the maintenance costs and long term bug problems in
> the world pale in comparison to "Time To Market".
In which case, Ada is doomed (and we all probably are, because buggy
programs will kill us). Ada is about building programs the right way, with
few bugs and ability to fix/enhance in the future. None of that matters in
the least when time to market is everything. Ship any old crap, and fix it
next time. Or never bother.
If the world does not start insisting on programs that actually work (and
thus reduce the time to market pressure), then there is no hope.
Randy.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-05-13 19:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-10 9:17 Ada used in General Aviation (GA) applications? Kai Glaesner
2004-05-10 11:39 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-10 17:59 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-05-11 11:38 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-10 18:28 ` Bernd Specht
2004-05-10 20:10 ` Martin Dowie
2004-05-11 7:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-11 9:45 ` Bernd Specht
2004-05-11 9:52 ` Bernd Specht
2004-05-11 11:50 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-12 0:07 ` Richard Riehle
2004-05-12 12:21 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-12 15:36 ` Robert C. Leif
2004-05-11 19:34 ` Bernd Trog
2004-05-11 20:46 ` Bernd Specht
2004-05-12 17:09 ` Mike Silva
2004-05-12 18:51 ` Bernd Specht
2004-05-13 5:50 ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-13 7:21 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2004-05-13 8:10 ` Bernd Specht
2004-05-13 8:57 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2004-05-13 9:27 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-13 11:46 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-13 19:20 ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2004-05-13 21:00 ` tmoran
2004-05-13 23:41 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-05-14 6:44 ` Anders Wirzenius
2004-05-14 13:54 ` Andersen Jacob Sparre
2004-05-17 5:27 ` Anders Wirzenius
2004-05-17 11:53 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-14 22:31 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-15 9:05 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-05-15 11:46 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-16 16:48 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-05-17 6:35 ` Time to market, was: " Anders Wirzenius
2004-05-17 12:17 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-18 1:05 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-05-18 7:58 ` Peter Amey
[not found] ` <40A9EFFC.7090708@noplace.com>
2004-05-19 0:45 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-05-17 12:04 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-17 6:09 ` Anders Wirzenius
2004-05-18 4:45 ` Simon Wright
2004-05-17 11:58 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-17 6:15 ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-17 11:48 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-13 16:45 ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-13 17:05 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2004-05-13 20:59 ` Bartłomiej Świercz
2004-05-13 21:06 ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-14 1:07 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-05-13 22:37 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-05-14 6:41 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2004-05-13 19:30 ` Bernd Trog
2004-05-13 16:17 ` Mike Silva
2004-05-11 20:15 ` Martin Dowie
2004-05-12 12:30 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-13 7:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-13 12:01 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-13 13:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-17 12:25 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-17 13:11 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-13 19:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2004-05-14 10:45 ` Kai Glaesner
2004-05-14 22:35 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-17 12:26 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-17 19:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2004-05-18 1:09 ` Jeffrey Carter
[not found] ` <40A9F260.9080300@noplace.com>
2004-05-19 0:50 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-05-19 1:34 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-06 9:48 ` I R T
2004-05-18 4:50 ` Simon Wright
[not found] ` <40A9F38C.9080003@noplace.com>
2004-05-18 21:05 ` Simon Wright
2004-06-06 9:51 ` I R T
2004-05-18 12:05 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-19 17:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2004-05-19 22:21 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-20 19:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-21 11:39 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-19 22:42 ` Jeff C,
2004-05-20 11:36 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-21 1:46 ` Jeff C,
2004-05-21 5:46 ` Richard Riehle
2004-05-21 5:44 ` Simon Wright
2004-06-06 10:01 ` I R T
2004-05-12 2:32 ` Steve
2004-05-12 12:34 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-13 6:21 ` Richard Riehle
2004-05-13 8:30 ` End of "discussion" (was Re: Ada used in General Aviation (GA) applications?) Bernd Specht
2004-05-13 15:14 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-05-13 12:09 ` Ada used in General Aviation (GA) applications? Marin David Condic
2004-05-13 14:58 ` Martin Dowie
2004-05-13 20:37 ` Symbian OS (was: Re: Ada used in General Aviation (GA) applications?) Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-05-11 11:41 ` Ada used in General Aviation (GA) applications? Marin David Condic
2004-05-11 17:28 ` Bernd Specht
2004-05-12 12:42 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-13 8:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-12 10:01 ` Peter Amey
2004-05-12 12:50 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-12 14:45 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-13 7:43 ` Peter Amey
2004-05-13 12:17 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-12 17:13 ` Mike Silva
2004-05-10 21:31 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-11 11:29 ` Martin Dowie
2004-05-11 20:12 ` Martin Dowie
2004-05-11 14:29 ` Britt Snodgrass
2004-06-06 9:30 ` I R T
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-12 9:06 Lionel.DRAGHI
2004-05-12 12:52 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-12 17:58 ` Bernd Specht
2004-05-12 18:13 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-12 18:28 ` Mark Lorenzen
2004-05-13 13:31 ` Mike Silva
2004-05-12 14:25 Lionel.DRAGHI
2004-05-13 7:57 Lionel.DRAGHI
2004-05-13 8:39 Lionel.DRAGHI
2004-05-14 11:44 Lionel.DRAGHI
2004-05-14 18:11 ` Martin Dowie
2004-05-16 18:53 ` Robert I. Eachus
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