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From: nospam@thanks.com.au (Don Harrison)
Subject: Re: Can't export object of private type
Date: 1999/02/26
Date: 1999-02-26T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F7r2DF.23y@syd.csa.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7b3f6v$lc1$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com

Robert Dewar wrote:

:In article <F7p7Dq.DE1@syd.csa.com.au>,
:  nospam@thanks.com.au wrote:
:> :Ada doean't allow you to declare a private type and
:> declare an object of that  :type in the visible part of
:> the same spec. For example, the following is
:> :illegal:
:> :
:> :  package Private_Stuff is
:> :    type Private_Type is tagged private;
:> :    procedure Do_Something (A: in Private_Type);
:> :    P: Private_Type;
:> :  private
:> :    type Private_Type is tagged null record;
:> :  end;
:
:This is of course wrong at a very fundamental level. The
:notion of linear elaboration is central to the integrity
:of the Ada design, and is a notion that should be fully
:understood and familiar to Ada programmers.
 
I'm sure you mean that it's wrong that Ada has a linear elaboration 
model ..and I agree. :)

:You mention "looking ahead", and it is of course true that
:some trivial cases could be handled this way, but this
:never works in the general case. ..

[example of recursive declarations]

:The point here is that this is not some kind of arbitrary
:restriction, ..

No, the point here is that recursive declarations don't make 
any sense ..under any elaboration model.

Because *non-recursive* declarations imply a partial ordering,
a valid elaboration sequence can be determined for them, 
irrespective of declaration order.

:Now my own design preference would have been to avoid the
:separate private part, and just put a private keyword on
:selected declarations. 

I think you're right. In fact, this is the approach used for
Eiffel. 


-- 
Don (Harrison).   donh at syd.csa.com.au






  reply	other threads:[~1999-02-26  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <F7JoCB.JxB@syd.csa.com.au>
1999-02-24  0:00 ` Can't export object of private type Don Harrison
1999-02-24  0:00   ` Tom Moran
1999-02-24  0:00   ` Samuel Mize
1999-02-24  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-25  0:00     ` Don Harrison
1999-02-25  0:00       ` fraser
1999-02-26  0:00         ` Don Harrison
1999-02-26  0:00           ` fraser
1999-03-01  0:00             ` Don Harrison
1999-03-01  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
     [not found]           ` <7b6nqe$75m$1@remarq.com>
1999-02-26  0:00             ` fraser
1999-02-27  0:00               ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-26  0:00           ` Samuel Mize
1999-03-01  0:00             ` Don Harrison
1999-03-01  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-02  0:00               ` fraser
1999-03-03  0:00                 ` Don Harrison
1999-02-28  0:00           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-28  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-25  0:00       ` Samuel Mize
1999-02-26  0:00         ` Don Harrison
1999-02-27  0:00           ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-01  0:00             ` Don Harrison
1999-03-01  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-01  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-01  0:00               ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-01  0:00                 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-02  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-03  0:00                     ` Don Harrison
1999-03-03  0:00                       ` Samuel Mize
1999-03-04  0:00                         ` Don Harrison
1999-03-07  0:00                     ` Ehud Lamm
1999-03-03  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
1999-03-04  0:00                 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-04  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
1999-03-01  0:00             ` Don Harrison
1999-03-02  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-28  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-01  0:00           ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-01  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-02  0:00               ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-01  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-01  0:00           ` Samuel Mize
1999-02-25  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-26  0:00         ` Don Harrison [this message]
1999-02-26  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-02-26  0:00             ` dennison
1999-02-26  0:00             ` bourguet
1999-02-26  0:00               ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-02-27  0:00                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-02-27  0:00                 ` Simon Wright
1999-02-28  0:00               ` dewar
1999-03-01  0:00                 ` bourguet
1999-03-01  0:00             ` Don Harrison
1999-03-01  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-03-03  0:00                 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-03  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-03-01  0:00             ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-27  0:00         ` Brian Rogoff
1999-03-01  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-02-28  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-01  0:00       ` Tom Moran
1999-03-02  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-02  0:00           ` Tom Moran
1999-03-02  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-02  0:00               ` Tom Moran
1999-03-02  0:00                 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-02  0:00                   ` nabbasi
1999-03-02  0:00                     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-03  0:00                   ` Don Harrison
1999-03-03  0:00                     ` Single Extension; Polymorphic Arrays Nick Roberts
1999-03-03  0:00                       ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-08  0:00                         ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-08  0:00                           ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-08  0:00                           ` Tucker Taft
     [not found]                             ` <m3ogm40wav.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1999-03-08  0:00                               ` Tucker Taft
1999-03-08  0:00                                 ` dennison
1999-03-09  0:00                                 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-08  0:00                               ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-03  0:00               ` Can't export object of private type Don Harrison
1999-03-03  0:00                 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-03  0:00                   ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-04  0:00                     ` Don Harrison
1999-03-04  0:00                       ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-08  0:00                         ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-09  0:00                         ` Don Harrison
1999-03-09  0:00                           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-09  0:00                             ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-10  0:00                             ` Don Harrison
1999-03-10  0:00                               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-04  0:00                       ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-04  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-03-05  0:00                           ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-05  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
1999-03-05  0:00                           ` Abstract Subprograms of Untagged Types Nick Roberts
1999-03-05  0:00                             ` robert_dewar
1999-03-05  0:00                             ` Tucker Taft
1999-03-05  0:00                               ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-06  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-03-04  0:00                       ` Can't export object of private type fraser
1999-03-09  0:00                         ` Don Harrison
1999-03-08  0:00                     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-08  0:00                       ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-08  0:00                 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-10  0:00                   ` Don Harrison
1999-03-10  0:00                     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-10  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-03-10  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-03-10  0:00                           ` dennison
1999-03-10  0:00                             ` robert_dewar
1999-03-10  0:00                               ` dennison
1999-03-11  0:00                                 ` bill
1999-03-11  0:00                                   ` Scott Ingram
1999-03-11  0:00                                     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-11  0:00                                   ` dennison
1999-03-12  0:00                                   ` dewar
1999-03-11  0:00                                 ` dennison
1999-03-11  0:00                                 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-11  0:00                                   ` Don Harrison
1999-03-12  0:00                                     ` robert_dewar
1999-03-11  0:00                           ` Don Harrison
1999-03-10  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
1999-03-10  0:00                           ` dennison
1999-03-11  0:00                             ` dennison
1999-03-10  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-03-03  0:00           ` Don Harrison
1999-02-28  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-28  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
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