Re: Ada Job Market, Was: Re: SIGada Conference

["Steve" <nospam_steved94@comcast.net>]

Do you realize you're trashing the language with your statements?
Taking news that might be encouraging to Ada enthusiasts (the people you're
likely to find on this group) and saying it's garbage.  It doesn't help.

Steve
(The Duck)

"Marin David Condic" <nobody@noplace.com> wrote in message
news:3FE05B88.1070701@noplace.com...
> My gut reaction based on prior searches of Monster, et alia, would make
> 5% sound optimistic. It would also likely be *very* location sensitive
> since Ada has traditionally been employed largely with defense
> contractors and they're not spread across the U.S. evenly like peanut
> butter.
>
> But assume for a moment that this is true. C++ gets 50% and Ada gets 5%.
> Students exiting college are going to be looking for jobs. What skill
> set will they likely want to have in order to face that market? When
> companies start development of software related tools, will they be
> looking to satisfy the 5% market or the 50% market?
>
> This has the potential to be a self-fulfilling prophecy, so one should
> not look at it as doom and gloom, but rather as a warning. Unless Ada
> starts getting bigger numbers, all the incentives are to go with
> something else. People will go with a niche language if they think it is
> on the way *UP*, but not if it appears to be on the way *DOWN*. Hence,
> Ada needs to do something to excite the potential user community and
> create the impression of going somewhere *new* so it starts a "get on
> board" trend.
>
> MDC
>
> Simon Clubley wrote:
> >
> >
> > If you have a copy of Dr Dobb's Journal for October 2003, have a look at
> > page 52.
> >
> > The author has done an analysis of job offers for the period July 2002
to
> > June 2003 that specified programming language requirements.
> >
> > I won't post the table (because I'm not sure what the copyright issues
are,
> > and anyway it's a detailed table), but the author's table claims[1] that
Ada
> > is running around the 5% mark (+/- 1%) for much of that period.
> >
> > It was interesting to note however that it increased a couple of percent
> > in May/June 2003.
> >
> > For comparison C++ is running at around the 50% (+/- several %) mark,
and
> > Pascal is running at around 0.2%.
> >
> > Simon.
> >
> > [1] I use "claims" because I am finding it hard to believe that 5% of
all
> > programming jobs specify Ada, however nice that would be. My viewpoint
here
> > may be tainted by the fact that I am in the UK, and closer to 0% appears
to
> > be a more accurate figure here. [Fortunately, my interest in Ada is more
of
> > a personal interest...]
> >
>
>
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