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From: "Stephane Richard" <stephane.richard@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: An Ada advocacy method
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 09:35:32 GMT
Date: 2003-08-30T09:35:32+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ed_3b.5892$zL5.1983@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3F50130A.1070406@noplace.com

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Well to be sure I could just send you a whole roll of it? ;-)

I know what you're trying to say marin, and those features dont only exists
in Micro$oft products....take delphi/kylix...pretty good integration
:-)...who was it that said that as far as open source programmers make
programming things?  well Where's Visual Ada ??  By that I'm not selling
microsoft here, but Marin is right in my opinion....we got all the bits and
pieces in ada thought we have database bindings, there's Glade, GWindows as
GUI's GtkAda too, maybe it would be fun to take all that (throw in other
stuff) build a uniform and integrated IDE to go with it...Sure theres
AdaGIde, I use PCGrasp, and JGrasp, they're good editors/compilers...but
that's about it. :-)...certain "up to date" features people now expect out
of their IDE isn't there.  at least not as far as the free ADA compiler
goes.

and they could be there....

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"Marin David Condic" <nobody@noplace.com> wrote in message
news:3F50130A.1070406@noplace.com...
> Do they have an integrated GUI builder that makes the GUI part of the
> project? (I think ObjectAda comes close at least) Do they have an
> integrated debugger that works well with the Ada source? (maybe - sort
> of) Do they have a database & interface to same? (probably not) Does it
> all come in a single distribution that installs right out of the box
> with all the pieces? (maybe in part) How about documentation that you
> jump to when the compiler pukes or you need to know how to use a library
> routine (I don't think so.) And bringing that up, what about a really
> nice class library that does all sorts of standard-issue things for you?
> (I can't see one on the horizon that can compete with what I've seen in
> other languages) And is there some sort of prefabricated application
> model that hooks the GUI and the library and your project all together &
> generates code to do the connections for you? (Not even anywhere in
sight.)
>
> Having made use of MS Visual C++ and seen how spiffy that was in terms
> of tightly integrated features, I'd hold that up as a standard against
> which to measure. (Not for *quality* but at least for giving the
> programmer a whole pile of well integrated things that enabled building
> apps for the PC very rapidly - once you understood the model.) A program
> bombs (as will happen a lot in C++) and you're right there in the
> debugger - *plus* you could change the source and it automagically made
> changes to the executing image and you could resume your run. And when
> you got done building a GUI, it pretty much had the skeleton of whatever
> you needed for callbacks done for you. Etc. etc. etc.
>
> Hey Steph! You got another one of those paper towels??? I'm foaming
again!!
>
> (Wait a minute... Wes: Is this a troll? :-)
>
> MDC
>
>
>
> Wes Groleau wrote:
> >
> > Is EZ2LOAD defunct?
> >
> > How about the demo version of ObjectAda ?
> >
>
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-08-30  9:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-28 23:48 An Ada advocacy method Wes Groleau
2003-08-29  1:25 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-29  2:25   ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-29  3:23   ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-29 12:33     ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-29 12:50       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-29 12:52       ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-29 13:23       ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-30  2:59         ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-30  3:08           ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-30  3:21             ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-08-30 13:31             ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-30 16:45               ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-31 13:43                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-31 15:30                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-31 16:10                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-31 16:27                       ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-31 19:16                       ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-08-31  7:33               ` Martin Dowie
2003-08-31 15:59                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-31 16:31                   ` Ed Falis
2003-09-01 14:23                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-01 19:06                       ` Wes Groleau
2003-09-02  1:10                         ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-02  1:59                           ` Online help (was: An Ada advocacy method) Wes Groleau
     [not found]                             ` <47i1jb.gk2.ln@skymaster>
2003-09-02 13:55                               ` Online help Wes Groleau
2003-09-02  7:47                           ` An Ada advocacy method Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-09-02 12:32                             ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-03  9:45                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-09-01  9:29                   ` Martin Dowie
2003-08-30  9:35           ` Stephane Richard [this message]
2003-08-29 17:02       ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-30  6:13         ` Adrian Hoe
2003-08-30  6:13       ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-30  6:10     ` Chad R. Meiners
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2003-08-29 13:36 Lionel.DRAGHI
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