From: donh@syd.csa.com.au (Don Harrison)
Subject: Re: Rebuttal to Ariane paper
Date: 1997/08/26
Date: 1997-08-26T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <EFIDx3.FJt@syd.csa.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 34018ec9.3850572@wizard.pn.com
Lee Webber wrote:
:1. I am an Eiffel enthusiast; also, a developer with a generation's
:experience in networking and (mostly soft) real-time systems.
:
:2. I have however never actually used Eiffel in any project, much to
:my regret, because the existing systems have not been scaled to my
:platforms. (Recent announcements, incluing Visual Eiffel and
:especially Embedded Eiffel, may change that. We'll see if I can get
:out of my existing technical commitments.)
:
:3. I do agree with Ken that DBC per se wouldn't have saved Ariane,
:while any normal methodological diligence (with a methodology possibly
:including but not restricted to DBC) would have.
:
:4. I do think that the use of DBC in several projects might well have
:resulted in a design culture which would then have made Ariane less
:likely. However (as always with cultures) there is no inevitability
:about this.
:
:5. As for a couple of technical issues, executable assertions don't
:always work well with time-critical code, and some external entities
:don't model well as well-behaved objects. The first of these
:observations might make DBC somewhat less useful in HRT apps than
:elsewhere -- but certainly not useless. The second observation, IMO,
:hits at all specification and testing methodologies, not just DBC.
:
:6. As for reluctance, many Eiffelists (including myself) are simply
:not that qualified to speak to HRT issues.
:
:FWIW, YMMV. This is my first and last direct comment on Ariane.
Sensible comments.
Don.
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1997-08-19 0:00 ` Rebuttal to Ariane paper Ken Garlington
1997-08-22 0:00 ` Jean-Marc Jezequel
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1997-08-25 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-26 0:00 ` Don Harrison [this message]
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