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From: jpb@iris8.msi.com (Jan Bielawski)
Subject: Re: Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it?
Date: 1997/07/25
Date: 1997-07-25T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <EDw2pJ.A84@msi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.869256970@merv


In article <dewar.869256970@merv> dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:
> Paul said
> 
> <<C++ (the obvious choice) is a highly complex language, so it takes a
> long time to learn.  This is time that will not be spent learning
> good, solid software engineering.
> >>

Well, *life* is highly complex.  I don't think it's possible to
write sophisticated software in a non-"highly complex language."

To expect to be able to deal with modern technology by means of
a "simple" language which does not require one to "waste" time
on mastering it is dreamland.  Kind of reminds me of those
misguided hobbyists on sci.physics.* newsgroups who dream about
creating a "unified theory of everything" while never learning
any mathematics since it's "_just_ a _language_ of physics."

> Actually I don't think that C++ is the "obvious choice" any more. Among
> academics chasing relevancy, C++ seems to be the language of yesterday,
> the language du jour appears to be Java.

Java and C++ are different languages with application domains
merely overlapping here and there.
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  reply	other threads:[~1997-07-25  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-07-11  0:00 Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? ivory
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Mike Stark
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Michael Schuerig
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Richie Bielak
1997-07-14  0:00   ` Don Harrison
1997-07-11  0:00 ` Tom M. Chen
1997-07-11  0:00   ` robinsaj
1997-07-12  0:00 ` Ian Nelson
     [not found] ` <33CA5E3D.475B@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-14  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]     ` <33CB8E75.7CB1@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-16  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-16  0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-07-18  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-25  0:00     ` Jan Bielawski [this message]
1997-07-17  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-07-17  0:00   ` Walt Howard
1997-07-18  0:00     ` Henrik Wist
     [not found]     ` <33CF6C0E.4983@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-18  0:00       ` Walt Howard
1997-07-18  0:00     ` Technical Professionals and the humnaities ( Was: Re: Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it?) Chris Kuan
1997-07-18  0:00       ` Paul Johnson
1997-07-20  0:00         ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1997-07-22  0:00           ` Joseph M. Saur
1997-07-21  0:00   ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Don Harrison
     [not found]   ` <01bc94e6$9ced0820$287b7b7a@tlo2>
1997-07-19  0:00     ` Frieder Monninger
1997-07-22  0:00     ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-07-30  0:00     ` Glenn Williamson
1997-07-30  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
1997-07-30  0:00         ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-01  0:00           ` I use Eiffel! and other "strange tongues"! Jakob Engblom
1997-08-02  0:00             ` Walt Howard
1997-08-02  0:00               ` Ian Nelson
1997-08-02  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-03  0:00                 ` Matt Kennel (Remove 'NOSPAM' to reply)
1997-08-03  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-07  0:00                 ` Andrew Semprebon
1997-08-08  0:00                   ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-08  0:00                     ` Walt Howard
1997-08-11  0:00                       ` Jeff Brown
1997-08-13  0:00                       ` quadrafeline
1997-08-09  0:00                 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-08-04  0:00               ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
     [not found]                 ` <dewar.870872376@merv>
1997-08-09  0:00                   ` Heribert Slama
     [not found]               ` <5s8bsh$mo0@alumni.rpi.edu>
1997-08-06  0:00                 ` C/C++ is the best teaching language??!? HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-08-08  0:00                 ` Tom Valesky
1997-08-02  0:00           ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Sean Case
1997-08-02  0:00           ` Nick Payne
1997-08-02  0:00             ` Walt Howard
1997-07-30  0:00       ` Brian Kimball
1997-07-31  0:00         ` Why I didn't like Eiffel Glenn Williamson
1997-08-02  0:00           ` Ian Nelson
1997-07-31  0:00       ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Don Harrison
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