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From: eachus@spectre.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus)
Subject: Re: What ada 83 compiler is *best*
Date: 1998/12/10
Date: 1998-12-10T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <EACHUS.98Dec10111243@spectre.mitre.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 366D68CD.AFC12CAF@XXX_nospam_stelnj.com


   Rick Thorne wrote:

   >  I think one of the reasons Ada has failed so miserably in
   > commercial US software development is precisely BECAUSE it is a
   > standard the government has tried to bully on us.

   This is a misunderstanding of the whole idea behind the HOLWG
(high-order language working group) that was the driving force behind
the creation of Ada.  They were charged with reducing the number of
languages used on DoD projects.  At the time the HOLWG was formed the
number of different (high-level not assembly or machine) languages
used was over 800.  Today I would guess that the number in maintained
systems is between 50 and 100, and, in systems in active development,
less than a dozen.  (Let's see, Ada, C, C++, Fortran, Cobol, SQL,
Lisp, Perl, HTML, and a few others, so it could be over a dozen.
Depends on how you count scripting and special purpose languages.)

   Now the HOLWG originally concluded that the optimum number of HLLs
was one, but anyone working on a major Ada (or other language)
development will tell you that while 90% of the development is in Ada,
some is in shell scripts, SQL, and C, where that is the best choice
for that particular piece of the job.

--

					Robert I. Eachus

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  parent reply	other threads:[~1998-12-10  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-12-03  0:00 What ada 83 compiler is *best* Rick Thorne
1998-12-03  0:00 ` marc j bejerano
1998-12-03  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-03  0:00 ` Gautier
1998-12-07  0:00   ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-07  0:00     ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-08  0:00       ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00         ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-08  0:00           ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00             ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-08  0:00               ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00                 ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-09  0:00                 ` Marc A. Criley
1998-12-09  0:00                 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-07  0:00     ` Chris Morgan
1998-12-08  0:00       ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-08  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-09  0:00           ` John McCabe
1998-12-08  0:00         ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-08  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-09  0:00             ` dewarr
1998-12-09  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-10  0:00                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-10  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-08  0:00         ` David Gillon
1998-12-08  0:00           ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00     ` Roga Danar
1998-12-08  0:00       ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-09  0:00         ` Roga Danar
1998-12-10  0:00       ` Robert I. Eachus [this message]
1998-12-08  0:00     ` Gautier.DeMontmollin
1998-12-09  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-09  0:00       ` dewarr
1998-12-09  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-10  0:00         ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-10  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-10  0:00             ` Tucker Taft
1998-12-11  0:00           ` dewarr
1998-12-14  0:00             ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-09  0:00       ` P.S. Norby
1998-12-04  0:00 ` Ada rotting? (was: What ada 83 compiler is *best*) Roga Danar
1998-12-07  0:00   ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-07  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-07  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1998-12-08  0:00         ` Marin David Condic
     [not found]           ` <366D6BF8.B1F4C1C0@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1998-12-08  0:00             ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-07  0:00       ` David Botton
1998-12-08  0:00       ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00         ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-08  0:00           ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-09  0:00             ` Chris Morgan
1998-12-04  0:00 ` What ada 83 compiler is *best* Matthew Heaney
1998-12-07  0:00 ` Jeff Carter
1998-12-08  0:00   ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-08  0:00   ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00     ` Steve O'Neill
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1998-11-18  0:00 Nobody
1998-11-18  0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-11-21  0:00   ` dewarr
1998-11-21  0:00   ` dewarr
1998-11-21  0:00   ` dewarr
1998-11-18  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-11-18  0:00   ` Rick Thorne
1998-11-18  0:00     ` dennison
1998-11-18  0:00     ` Gautier de Montmollin
1998-12-03  0:00     ` Roga Danar
1998-11-19  0:00 ` whiter5195
1998-11-23  0:00   ` Charlie McCutcheon
     [not found] ` <36534040.F30A5E5B@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1998-11-21  0:00   ` Steve Kerr
1998-11-21  0:00     ` Ed Falis
1998-11-21  0:00     ` Chris Morgan
1998-11-22  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
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