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From: eachus@spectre.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus)
Subject: Re: Unix Haters
Date: 1996/03/27
Date: 1996-03-27T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <EACHUS.96Mar27142328@spectre.mitre.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: B0000071465@gtss.rdyne.rockwell.com


   At 05:21 AM 3/26/96 GMT, Wallace E. Owen wrote:

   > What was the first OS to permit mounting another computer's disks
   > over the net? Unix, with RPC/XDR/NFS.  Yes, it's now available
   > for some other OS's but none integrate it so well.

   If we fail to learn from history... ;-)

   I don't really know how to answer this, since there are some
ambiguities in the question.  If net refers to the Internet, the
answer has to be either Multics, DEC-10's, or Honeywell 316's.  If
not, we can go a bit further back.  Most fault-tolerant computer
systems support, and have always supported cross-mounting of disks.
Tandem had this feature when the ARPAnet consisted of a few computers,
but IBM set many System 360s up this way when Tandem was still at the
IPO stage. (Disk drives were connected to two disk controllers, one on
each machine.)  NASA had four IBM 7094s which I think had cross
mounted disks, as did a pair of 7094s at Project MAC.  (And many 7094
computers used IBM 1401s as I/O controllers/devices but I digress.)
If you allow drums instead of disks, I think you can even add PDP-1s
--yes PDP-ONEs not PDP-11s--at Project MAC into the mix.  That gets us
back to, say, 1964.

   But let's go a little farther...  The Univac division of Remington
Rand built two LARC computer systems in the mid 50's. (One for Los
Alamos and one for the Navy's David Taylor Model Basin.) They
consisted of a high-speed binary computer and a decimal computer which
mostly did I/O and binary/decimal conversion.  How did they
communicate?  Via a shared drum.

   But that should come as no surprise...the first delivered product
from Eckhart-Mauchley Computer Corporation, the ancestor of Univac,
was the BINAC, a dual processor fault-tolerant computer.  BINAC was
originally purchased by the new US Air Force for use on board
aircraft.  Of course this was pushing the limits of both aircraft and
computers in the forties, but it did result in pioneering work on
shared I/O devices. ;-)
--

					Robert I. Eachus

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Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-03-26  0:00 Unix Haters Alain Graziani
1996-03-27  0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus [this message]
1996-03-29  0:00   ` Wallace E. Owen
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     [not found] ` <31442F19.6C13@lfwc.lockheed.com>
     [not found]   ` <4i26uhINNsd@keats.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
     [not found]     ` <31457584.2475@lfwc.lockheed.com>
     [not found]       ` <4i4s5f$igc@solutions.solon.com>
     [not found]         ` <3146E324.5C1E@lfwc.lockheed.com>
     [not found]           ` <Pine.A32.3.91.960313165249.124278B-100000@red.weeg.uiowa.edu>
     [not found]             ` <4i9ld6$m2v@rational.rational.com>
     [not found]               ` <4iah20$p7k@saba.info.ucla.edu>
1996-03-17  0:00                 ` Alan Brain
1996-03-22  0:00                   ` moi
1996-03-24  0:00                     ` Tore Joergensen
1996-03-24  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-26  0:00                         ` Wallace E. Owen
1996-03-26  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-26  0:00                             ` Richard Pitre
1996-03-27  0:00                               ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-27  0:00                                 ` Richard Pitre
1996-03-28  0:00                             ` Kenneth Mays
1996-03-26  0:00                           ` Tore Joergensen
1996-03-26  0:00                     ` Erik W. Anderson
1996-03-26  0:00                     ` Erik W. Anderson
1996-04-01  0:00                       ` Anthony Shih Hao Lee
1996-03-26  0:00                     ` Erik W. Anderson
1996-03-27  0:00                     ` Verne Arase
1996-03-27  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-28  0:00                         ` Gary Fiber
1996-03-28  0:00                         ` Robert Crawford
1996-03-28  0:00                         ` Jeff Dege
1996-03-28  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-28  0:00                         ` Robert L. Spooner, AD3K
1996-03-28  0:00                           ` Dan Pop
1996-03-28  0:00                           ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-28  0:00                         ` James McIninch
1996-03-28  0:00                           ` Ian Ward
1996-03-28  0:00                             ` Larry Weiss
1996-04-01  0:00                             ` Laurence Barea
1996-04-02  0:00                               ` Ian Ward
1996-04-08  0:00                                 ` Laurence Barea
1996-04-09  0:00                                   ` Ian Ward
1996-03-29  0:00                         ` Verne Arase
1996-03-30  0:00                         ` fredex
1996-03-31  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-01  0:00                             ` Dan Pop
1996-04-01  0:00                             ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-01  0:00                               ` Tom Payne
1996-04-01  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-04  0:00                                 ` Dan Pop
1996-04-05  0:00                                 ` Edwin Lim
1996-04-06  0:00                                 ` Wallace E. Owen
1996-04-01  0:00                             ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-10  0:00                               ` Steve Detoni
1996-04-11  0:00                                 ` Lawrence Kirby
     [not found]                             ` <4jok7f$1l2@solutions.s <4jp1rh$22l@galaxy.ucr.edu>
1996-04-04  0:00                               ` sfms
1996-03-30  0:00                         ` Thomas Koenig
1996-03-31  0:00                         ` Kengo Hashimoto
1996-04-02  0:00                           ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-02  0:00                             ` The Amorphous Mass
1996-04-02  0:00                         ` Max Waterman
1996-03-27  0:00                       ` Richard Pitre
1996-03-28  0:00   ` Dan Pop
1996-03-30  0:00     ` Lawrence Kirby
     [not found]       ` <danpop.828240895@rscernix>
1996-04-01  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Dan Pop
1996-04-03  0:00             ` Michael Feldman
1996-04-04  0:00               ` Dan Pop
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Mike Young
1996-04-11  0:00             ` morphis
1996-04-11  0:00               ` James McIninch
1996-04-11  0:00                 ` morphis
1996-04-12  0:00                 ` Teresa Reiko
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Michael Feldman
1996-04-02  0:00   ` Ralf Graf
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1996-03-29  0:00 Dr.Dmitry A.Kazakov
1996-04-02  0:00 Philippe Verdy
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