Why don't large companies use C/C++/OOP?

Why don't large companies use C/C++/OOP?

[Curtis]

Untried and/or untrue?

From The X Journal, November-December 1994, pg 6 (a very C/C++ oriented  
magazine from SIGS Pulications, which also publishes the C++ Report and 
Journal of OOP):

Forrester Research in Cambridge Massachusetts surveyed MIS executives 
from 51 of the Fortune 1000 companies.  Only 12% of the software staff  
were experienced in C programming, and only 3% in OOP.
--

I haven't read the study, but probably only means that many companies 
are outsourcing their MIS software development or buying COTS.  And 
those companies left which haven't gone those routes have a large  
mainframe legacy they are loathe to re-engineer.

Would anyone who has actually read the report care to comment?

Curtis

Re: Why don't large companies use C/C++/OOP?

[Larry Liang]

In article <3c81qs$qj7@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov> Curtis Emerson writes:

   Untried and/or untrue?

   From The X Journal, November-December 1994, pg 6 (a very C/C++ oriented  
   magazine from SIGS Pulications, which also publishes the C++ Report and 
   Journal of OOP):

   Forrester Research in Cambridge Massachusetts surveyed MIS executives 
   from 51 of the Fortune 1000 companies.  Only 12% of the software staff  
   were experienced in C programming, and only 3% in OOP.
   --

   I haven't read the study, but probably only means that many companies 
   are outsourcing their MIS software development or buying COTS.  And 
   those companies left which haven't gone those routes have a large  
   mainframe legacy they are loathe to re-engineer.

   Would anyone who has actually read the report care to comment?

   Curtis

It is very irresponsible to post a flame bait to multiple news groups
in the name of more Ada acceptance. It only serves to annoy readers of
other groups without any positive effects. Please don't drag other
groups into the Ada flame fest.

Larry Liang

Re: Why don't large companies use C/C++/OOP?

[Robert Dewar]

Remembr that a LOT of programming is still done in COBOL, and of course a lot
is done using 4GL's.

One of the big surprises we had at Realia in marketing the Realia compiler
was that we thought the main market would be for offloading mainframe
development, but the main market is in fact new applications written in
COBOL for the PC, surprising! Now you can get CICS, 370 JCL, 370 assembler
and all kinds of junk on the PC. People are actually writing NEW 370
assembly language programs for the PC!

Re: Why don't large companies use C/C++/OOP?

[Robert I. Eachus]

In article <3ccc2h$756@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:

  > People are actually writing NEW 370 assembly language programs for
  > the PC!

  This is the most masochistic thing I've heard of all week!  (But
the week is still young yet... ;-)  As far as I am concerned, 360
assembler makes 8086 assembler look like a great leap forward.  The
360 does have a general register set, but the "normal" addressing
modes are a nightmare.

--

					Robert I. Eachus

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