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From: bobduff@world.std.com (Robert A Duff)
Subject: Re: Rules for Representation of Subtypes
Date: 1996/09/23
Date: 1996-09-23T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Dy78qJ.MDr@world.std.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mheaney-ya023080002209961353500001@news.ni.net


In article <mheaney-ya023080002209961353500001@news.ni.net>,
Matthew Heaney <mheaney@ni.net> wrote:
>I've always been curious about the rules for representation of subtypes. 
>For example, if I make a declaration like this:
>
>   A_Small_Integer : Integer range 0 .. 255;  -- assume type Integer is 4 bytes
>
>then is an implementation allowed to use fewer than 4 bytes to represent
>A_Small_Integer?

Yes.

>Suppose I'm on a Unix system and I do this
>
>   read (fd, A_Small_Integer'Address, 4);
>
>If the representation of A_Small_Integer is only 1 byte, then obviously I'm
>in trouble.  Am I required to specify the size of objects?

Well, you could.  But a better solution is to always say "aliased" when
you have a variable you want to take 'Address of.  Aliased variables
will generally be represented the same way, for all variables of the
type.

Also, the number 4 is questionable.  What are you trying to do?  Read 4
bytes of data?  Well in that case, you want to make sure the target
variable is 4 bytes (which your code doesn't do).  Or are you trying to
read however-many-bytes it takes to fill up A_Small_Integer?  In that
case, you should be asking for that number of bytes, not 4 bytes.  (You
can calculate it based on 'Size, which, unfortunately, is in bits.)

>   A_Small_Integer : Integer range 0 .. 255;
>   for A_Small_Integer'Size use 32;                     -- required?

That will make it the right size.  But if you read 4 non-zero bytes,
your program will be erroneous.

- Bob




  reply	other threads:[~1996-09-23  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-09-22  0:00 Rules for Representation of Subtypes Matthew Heaney
1996-09-23  0:00 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
1996-09-24  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1996-09-26  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-26  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-09-27  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-27  0:00           ` Mark A Biggar
1996-09-30  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-01  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-01  0:00                 ` Samuel Tardieu
1996-10-01  0:00                   ` Valid Attribute and Unchecked Conversion Matthew Heaney
1996-10-02  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-04  0:00                       ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-04  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-04  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-11  0:00                             ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-12  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-06  0:00                           ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-07  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-09  0:00                               ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-07  0:00                           ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-08  0:00                           ` Alan Brain
1996-10-04  0:00                         ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-07  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-09  0:00                             ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-07  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-10  0:00                           ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-11  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-14  0:00                               ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-14  0:00                               ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-07  0:00                         ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-10-01  0:00                   ` Rules for Representation of Subtypes Ken Garlington
1996-10-01  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-28  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-09-29  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-29  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-09-29  0:00                 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-09-30  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-01  0:00                   ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-02  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-02  0:00                       ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-06  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-29  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1996-09-30  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-30  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-30  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-03  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-02  0:00         ` Valid Attribute and Unchecked Conversion Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-02  0:00           ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-02  0:00         ` George Haddad
1996-10-03  0:00           ` John Herro
1996-10-04  0:00             ` Karl Cooper {46901}
1996-10-07  0:00               ` Mark A Biggar
1996-10-08  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-05  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-06  0:00               ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-14  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-27  0:00       ` Rules for Representation of Subtypes Matthew Heaney
1996-09-27  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-23  0:00 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1996-09-23  0:00   ` Samuel T. Harris
1996-09-26  0:00     ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1996-09-23  0:00   ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-24  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-24  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-26  0:00     ` Keith Thompson
1996-09-26  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1996-09-27  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-27  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-27  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-27  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1996-09-28  0:00 Robert Dewar
1996-09-29  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-29  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1996-09-29  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-30  0:00     ` Art Schwarz
1996-09-30  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-01  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-01  0:00         ` Brian R. Hanson
1996-10-01  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-28  0:00 Robert Dewar
1996-09-30  0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1996-09-28  0:00 Robert Dewar
1996-09-29  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-29  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-02  0:00 Franco Mazzanti
1996-10-03  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-03  0:00 Franco Mazzanti
1996-10-03  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-10  0:00 W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1996-10-10  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-11  0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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