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From: kst@thomsoft.com (Keith Thompson)
Subject: Re: next "big" language?? (disagree)
Date: 1996/06/24
Date: 1996-06-24T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DtIqn8.ADH@thomsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.835306677@schonberg


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In <dewar.835306677@schonberg> dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:
> In GNAT, 
> 
>    pragma Assert (X);
> 
> means EXACTLY
> 
>    if not X then
>       raise Assert_Error;

System.Assertions.Assert_Failure, actually.

>    end if;
> 
> which is well defined, but not at all in the category of assertions that
> the compiler can take advantage of, which can behave in a completely
> differrent (and possibly suprising manner).

I'm not sure I understand your point here.  For example:

   declare
      X: Integer := Some_Unknown_Value;
      Y: Integer := Another_Unknown_Value;
      Z: Integer;
   begin
      pragma Assert(X /= 0);
      Z := X / Y;               -- What may be assumed here?
      Put_Line("Z = " & Integer'Image(Z));
   end;

If the pragma Assert is equivalent to the if statement shown above,
then surely the compiler can assume that X /= 0, and can eliminate the
divide-by-zero check, if assertion checking is enabled.  After all,
if X is zero the division will never be executed.  (Note that X is not
volatile, shared, aliased, or anything fancy like that).  Whether the
current version of GNAT actually does this is another question.

What gets interesting is having an option to disable assertion checking
(as GNAT does).  If the checking is disabled, may the compiler still
assume that X /= 0?  GNAT has chosen not to make this assumption.
The alternative model (which I prefer) is to treat assertions in much
the same was as predefined checks; execution of code that violates an
assertion is erroneous.

Personally, I wish the assert statement of Preliminary Ada (the 1979
version) had remained in the language, preferably with an extension to
allow it in declarative parts.  Assertion checking could be disabled with
"pragma Suppress(Asssert_Error);".

By the way, here's another way to implement assertions without special
compiler support:

   declare
      subtype Truth is Boolean range True .. True;
      X: Integer := Some_Unknown_Value;
      X_Non_Zero: constant Truth := X /= 0;
      Y: Integer := Another_Unknown_Value;
      Z: Integer;
   begin
      Z := X / Y;
      Put_Line("Z = " & Integer'Image(Z));
   end;

The declaration of Non_Zero raises Constraint_Error if the assertion
fails, and will probably trigger a compiler warning if it fails
statically.  This is probably an incomplete solution, since I *think* the
compiler is allowed to eliminate X_Non_Zero if it's never referenced.
Perhaps pragma Volatile can be used to work around this, but that
introduces other complications.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~1996-06-24  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4p0fdd$4ml@news.atlantic.net>
1996-06-04  0:00 ` next "big" language?? (disagree) Peter Hermann
1996-06-04  0:00   ` The Amorphous Mass
1996-06-04  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-06  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-12  0:00       ` Help making ada pretty CSC Trusted Systems Group
1996-06-14  0:00         ` Sandy McPherson
1996-06-19  0:00         ` Ruediger Berlich
1996-06-04  0:00     ` next "big" language?? (disagree) Peter Hermann
1996-06-04  0:00       ` The Amorphous Mass
1996-06-05  0:00         ` Michael David WINIKOFF
1996-06-07  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-05  0:00     ` Ian Ward
1996-06-05  0:00       ` The Amorphous Mass
1996-06-08  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-08  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-08  0:00           ` The Amorphous Mass
1996-06-09  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-05  0:00   ` ++           robin
1996-06-05  0:00     ` Ian Ward
1996-06-05  0:00       ` Ian Ward
1996-06-06  0:00         ` Richard Riehle
1996-06-07  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-10  0:00             ` Richard Riehle
1996-06-07  0:00           ` Richard Riehle
1996-06-08  0:00             ` O'Connor
1996-06-11  0:00           ` ++           robin
1996-06-11  0:00             ` James_Rogers
1996-06-11  0:00               ` Kevin J. Weise
1996-06-11  0:00             ` David Weller
1996-06-11  0:00             ` Chris Warack <sys mgr>
1996-06-11  0:00         ` ++           robin
1996-06-11  0:00           ` Ian Ward
1996-06-12  0:00             ` ++           robin
1996-06-12  0:00               ` Ian Ward
1996-06-11  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
     [not found]   ` <4p60nk$imd@euas20.eua.ericsson.se>
     [not found]     ` <4p8lmq$oq7@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>
1996-06-11  0:00       ` ++           robin
1996-06-11  0:00         ` A. Grant
1996-06-12  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-17  0:00             ` A. Grant
1996-06-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24  0:00                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-06-26  0:00                   ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-06-19  0:00             ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-20  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24  0:00                 ` Dale Stanbrough
1996-06-24  0:00                   ` Lars Duening
1996-06-24  0:00                   ` hopkinc
1996-06-24  0:00                   ` Assertions (was: Re: next "big" language?? (disagree)) Robert A Duff
1996-06-24  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-25  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1996-06-28  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24  0:00                     ` Assertions (a different intent?) Gary McKee
     [not found]                     ` <4qrljg$15l8@watnews1.watson.ibm.com>
1996-06-28  0:00                       ` Assertions (was: Re: next "big" language?? (disagree)) Robert Dewar
1996-06-24  0:00                   ` next "big" language?? (disagree) Adam Beneschan
1996-06-24  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-26  0:00                   ` Marc C. Brooks
1996-06-26  0:00                   ` Marc C. Brooks
     [not found]                   ` <4qsbm7$r1s@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>
1996-06-28  0:00                     ` "Assert"? "Assume"? (was: next "big" language?? (disagree)) Alexander Bunkenburg
1996-06-28  0:00                       ` Ian Collier
1996-07-01  0:00                     ` Cameron Laird
1996-06-24  0:00                 ` Keith Thompson [this message]
1996-06-25  0:00                   ` next "big" language?? (disagree) Simon Read
1996-06-25  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
1996-06-24  0:00                 ` Adam Beneschan
1996-06-25  0:00                 ` Darin Johnson
1996-06-26  0:00                   ` Dale Stanbrough
1996-06-26  0:00                   ` A. Grant
1996-06-25  0:00                 ` Brian Nettleton @pulsar
1996-06-26  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-28  0:00                     ` Fergus Henderson
1996-06-28  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-30  0:00                         ` Fergus Henderson
1996-06-30  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-12  0:00           ` ++           robin
1996-06-12  0:00             ` A. Grant
1996-06-14  0:00               ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-06-12  0:00         ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-06-12  0:00           ` ++           robin
1996-06-12  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-06-13  0:00               ` ++           robin
1996-06-13  0:00               ` ++           robin
1996-06-12  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-14  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-15  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-18  0:00     ` Adam Beneschan
1996-06-18  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-28  0:00     ` Assertions (an heretic view) Michel Gauthier
1996-06-28  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1996-06-28  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-06  0:00 ` next "big" language?? (disagree) Dale Pontius
1996-06-11  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-12  0:00 ` Help making ada pretty Pedro de las Heras
1996-06-18  0:00 ` next "big" language?? (disagree) ++           robin
1996-06-07  0:00 Ian Ward
1996-06-08  0:00 ` O'Connor
1996-06-10  0:00   ` Matt Kennel
1996-06-11  0:00     ` Robb Nebbe
1996-06-11  0:00     ` Ian Ward
1996-06-12  0:00       ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-06-09  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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