From: bobduff@world.std.com (Robert A Duff)
Subject: Re: Ada Core Technologies and Ada95 Standards
Date: 1996/04/02
Date: 1996-04-02T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Dp95rA.E64@world.std.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 828475321.18492@assen.demon.co.uk
In article <828475321.18492@assen.demon.co.uk>,
John McCabe <john@assen.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>As I said before, if I can't prove my software meets all of its
>requirements, my customer will not accept it.
I think different people are using the word "prove" differently.
Clearly, no set of tests can "prove" beyond a doubt that every
combination of inputs is handled correctly, given a moderate-to-complex
program. I you disagree with that, then I think you're deeply confused.
On the other hand, it is possible to enumerate classes of inputs, and
"prove" (beyond a "reasonable" doubt?) that each such class is handled
correctly. And it's perfectly reasonable to complain about some
particular test suite, that it doesn't cover a whole class of inputs
that one thinks it ought to.
I suggest that we all use "prove" in a more mathematical sense -- which
rules out any proof by testing. Even in the mathematical sense, one has
to worry about whether the "proof" is truly correct.
- Bob
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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1996-03-25 0:00 Ada Core Technologies and Ada95 Standards Kenneth Mays
1996-03-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-28 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-03-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-29 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-01 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-02 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-04-02 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-02 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-04-02 0:00 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
1996-04-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-03 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-04 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-10 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-12 0:00 ` Philip Brashear
1996-04-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-15 0:00 ` Tiring Arguments Around (not about) Two Questions Ken Garlington
1996-04-15 0:00 ` Gary McKee
1996-04-16 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-17 0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-04-18 0:00 ` Ada Core Technologies and Ada95 Standards John McCabe
1996-04-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-22 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-04-23 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-24 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-04-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-26 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-04-26 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-04-26 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-25 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-26 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-26 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-22 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-15 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-16 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-02 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-04-02 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-16 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-04-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-22 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-04-23 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-26 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-29 0:00 ` Cordes MJ
1996-04-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-05-06 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-05-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-05-08 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-05-08 0:00 ` TARTAN and TI Tom Robinson
1996-05-09 0:00 ` Arthur Evans Jr
[not found] ` <Dr46LG.2FF@world.std.com>
1996-05-09 0:00 ` Ada Core Technologies and Ada95 Standards John McCabe
1996-05-07 0:00 ` Mike Cordes
1996-05-07 0:00 ` Mike Cordes
1996-04-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-15 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-16 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-18 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-03-31 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1996-04-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-01 0:00 ` Mike Young
1996-04-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Applet Magic works great, sort of Vince Del Vecchio
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Ada Core Technologies and Ada95 Standards steved
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Applet Magic works great, sort of Bob Crispen
1996-04-03 0:00 ` Ada Core Technologies and Ada95 Standards Robert I. Eachus
1996-04-03 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-04 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-04-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-06 0:00 ` Ada validation is virtually worthless Raj Thomas
1996-04-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-08 0:00 ` Arthur Evans Jr
1996-04-07 0:00 ` Ada Core Technologies and Ada95 Standards John McCabe
1996-04-05 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-04-10 0:00 ` Cordes MJ
1996-04-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-15 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-16 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-11 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-04-11 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-04-19 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
1996-04-25 0:00 ` Tiring Arguments Around (not about) Two Questions [VERY LONG] Laurent Guerby
1996-04-26 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-29 0:00 ` Philip Brashear
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1996-04-01 0:00 Ada Core Technologies and Ada95 Standards Simon Johnston
1996-04-24 0:00 W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1996-04-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-25 0:00 ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-04-25 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-29 0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93
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