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From: bobduff@world.std.com (Robert A Duff)
Subject: Re: some questions re. Ada/GNAT from a C++/GCC user
Date: 1996/04/01
Date: 1996-04-01T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Dp77v6.HCw@world.std.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 315FCD11.D7E@lfwc.lockheed.com

In article <315FCD11.D7E@lfwc.lockheed.com>,
Ken Garlington  <garlingtonke@lfwc.lockheed.com> wrote:
>Robert A Duff wrote:
>> 
>> I really do think the extra
>> verbosity damages readability, and there's "no good reason" for it.
>
>I do think "declare" is useful, if you name the declare block. 

OK, no argument here.  But what about the case where I don't *want* to
name it?  Adding lots of names doesn't make the code more readable.  You
only want to add names when there's something conceptually name-able.
Locally nested scopes with names seem useful, but locally nested scopes
without names, and without extra syntax, seem useful, too.

>...This gives you
>an easy way to find the end of the scope, even in the presence of nested scopes.
>Of course, an alternative would be to have the ability to name all constructs that 
>would introduce a scope. Something like?
>
>a_scope: if foo > bar then
>...
>end if a_scope;
>
>You could do this with comments, of course, but then you lose the compiler 
>checking...

True.  But don't forget that the compiler is just checking that the
names match up, which is useful, but it's not checking that the names
actually tell the truth about what "a_scope" is all about.  So let's not
attach too much significance to this amazing magic of compile-time
checking.

Note that the block_statement *name* is option in Ada, which I think is
good -- you can name it if there's a name the gives useful information,
but if the name is just "The_Loop_Body" or "The_Else_Part", you can omit
it.

- Bob




  reply	other threads:[~1996-04-01  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-03-27  0:00 some questions re. Ada/GNAT from a C++/GCC user Bill Newman
1996-03-27  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-28  0:00   ` Brian Rogoff
1996-03-29  0:00     ` John G. Volan
1996-03-30  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-31  0:00         ` John G. Volan
1996-03-31  0:00           ` Mike Young
1996-04-02  0:00             ` Glenn H. Porter
1996-04-02  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-02  0:00               ` Jonas Nygren
1996-04-03  0:00               ` Geert Bosch
1996-04-03  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-03  0:00             ` Scott Leschke
1996-04-04  0:00               ` AdaWorks
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Bruce.Conroy
1996-03-31  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-30  0:00       ` Mike Young
1996-03-30  0:00         ` Ted Dennison
1996-03-31  0:00           ` Mike Young
1996-04-01  0:00       ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-04-01  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Mike Young
1996-04-02  0:00             ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-04-02  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-01  0:00         ` Mike Young
1996-04-02  0:00           ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-04-02  0:00           ` David Shochat
1996-04-02  0:00             ` Mike Young
1996-04-02  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-28  0:00   ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-28  0:00 ` Scott Leschke
1996-03-29  0:00   ` Bill Newman
1996-03-29  0:00   ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-29  0:00   ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-30  0:00     ` Richard Pitre
1996-03-30  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-31  0:00         ` AdaWorks
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-01  0:00             ` AdaWorks
1996-04-01  0:00               ` Mike Young
1996-04-02  0:00                 ` AdaWorks
1996-04-02  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-01  0:00             ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-04-01  0:00             ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-01  0:00               ` Robert A Duff [this message]
1996-04-02  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
1996-04-02  0:00                   ` Felaco
1996-04-02  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-03  0:00                     ` Mark A Biggar
1996-04-02  0:00                 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-02  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-02  0:00                     ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-02  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-03  0:00                         ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-09  0:00                           ` Matt Kennel
1996-04-03  0:00                         ` David Emery
1996-04-01  0:00         ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-01  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-02  0:00       ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-28  0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1996-03-29  0:00   ` Adam Beneschan
1996-03-29  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-29  0:00   ` Brian Rogoff
1996-04-01  0:00     ` Mark A Biggar
1996-04-01  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-30  0:00   ` Iterators (was Re: some questions re. Ada/GNAT from a C++/GCC user) Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-31  0:00     ` Mike Young
1996-03-31  0:00       ` Fergus Henderson
     [not found]   ` <4jlj79$h1k@Nntp1.mcs.net>
1996-04-01  0:00     ` some questions re. Ada/GNAT from a C++/GCC user Robert A Duff
1996-04-02  0:00       ` Kevin Cline
1996-04-02  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-01  0:00   ` Iterators (was Re: some questions re. Ada/GNAT from a C++/GCC user) Robert I. Eachus
1996-04-04  0:00   ` some questions re. Ada/GNAT from a C++/GCC user Jon S Anthony
1996-03-30  0:00 ` Simon Wright
1996-04-01  0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
1996-04-01  0:00   ` Robert A Duff
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1996-03-28  0:00 Simon Johnston
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